Please cite the scientific study supporting your theory and actually add something to this discussion for once in your life.
No? Crickets?
Didn't think so.
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Please cite the scientific study supporting your theory and actually add something to this discussion for once in your life.
No? Crickets?
Didn't think so.
Here in the US, even Motorcycle crash deaths are listed as Covid related
Incorrect as Zelenko has published his findings.
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1
also here:
https://files.internetprotocol.co/ebook-covid-19.pdf
Speaking of Boulware, here is a discussion of his study in preprint. https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.09477
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"Our results suggest there is probably little or no benefit if the treatment is used in patients infected for too long, like hospitalized severe patients. On the contrary, they also suggest infected patients may have a large benefit if treated as early as possible, mostly as pre-prophylaxis treatment where symptoms appear will have an estimated relative reduction of at least 72%.
Another important aspect is that the variable of the study, be asymptomatic or be symptomatic, is quite time sensitive. Future trials should adopt less time sensitive variables, such as the number of days each patient is symptomatic, which could measure the possible benefit of treatment for patients that have been exposed for more than 3 days before the beginning of treatment. Another common possibility is to adopt some score system to measure severity of symptoms.1 However, score systems are difficult to be scientifically validated because they typically depend on personal judgment, whereas the variable number of days with symptoms can be more easily replicated by other studies.
Furthermore, the hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis should also be investigated with concomitant use of azithromycin and zinc7 , as also other antivirals should also be tested as prophylaxis, measuring the relative efficacy as a measure of the elapsed time after exposure to the virus to the beginning of treatment."
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why hasnt Murphy moved further into Phase 3...what is he waiting for
Might be trying to see how to avoid this
One misstep can quickly undo the gains from weeks of closures, and public-health experts say some complacency and fatigue with social-distancing restrictions is inevitable in a long pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...t-had-all-but-vanished/ar-BB17eAg9?li=BBnb7Kz
This is probably the study you’re thinking of. There’s been a few that has said similar. These one-off stories of a motorcycle death being counted as Covid (which was never counted anyway) are a drop in the bucket. Look at broad trends people.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/off...unt-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html
NJ hospitalizations down to 695 and of them only 128 are ICU patients.
So THE Plague.. THE Black Death.. was also a wuhan virus that the Chinese brought to the world. Seems like they may have earned the mistreatment they got 100 years ago by European powers. The same mistreatment that drives their animosity toward the west today.
Don't you think Sunday reported numbers probably have something to do with fewer people working on Sundays? Either they don't record the data until the following week or don't report it or just data recording errors due to that?Below is the Worldometers detailed graphic of US deaths, with today's total of 451 being well below the last 5 days, which had averaged over 1000 - the weekend dips have been very consistent with the last 3 Sundays having 451, 412, and 381 deaths, after a fair amount more the previous several days. If the pattern continues, tomorrow will also be relatively low and numbers will jump up again on Tuesday and will likely be higher this week than last week, as deaths very likely haven't peaked yet from this 2nd wave, given the lag from cases.
Cases were also well down at 56K, the lowest since 7/7 - not clear if this is the start of a decline after cases had largely plateaued the past week or so. Below the Worldometers death chart are the COVID Tracking charts of US tests, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, all on 7-day moving averages. Hard to make any meaningful observations on today's stats on a state level, given the large dip, although any dip is good to see. It's why I originally was only going to do detailed state analyses once a week or so (it's been on Tuesday nights the past 3 weeks).
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
https://covidtracking.com/data#chart-annotations
That is quite a reach there.
The death rate could have any number of causes, testing being just one possible contributor.
When you make reaches like this to argue a point you want to press it works against your argument. Do you really think no one would notice and would just take your argument at face value?
I hope the vaccine works for the older population. Sometimes difficult to get a good response with old immunity systems.
+1
The Wuhan Plaque and now the Wuhan Virus. What the hell is going on there?
:)
Great news. If NJ cases have been up last 5 weeks, why aren’t hospitalizations?
It’s remarkable all of the folks in ICUs and on ventilators in Florida, Texas, Arizona and California from the plethora of motorcycle accidents.
China was ruled by the Mongols at the time of the Black Death. You’ll have to send your complaints to Ulan Bator.
TX and FL have lower fatality rates vs. CA , AZ a tad higher (+0.2%) according to the current RCP tracker. TX, AZ and FL are 100% in the sunbelt vs around 60% for CA. As we know San Fran locked down early after analyzing their chicomvirus infection models, unlike NYC, helping to control the spread for CA statewide. LA County is seeing the major spikes in CA, so I guess it's all those R's in LA County not wearing masks.
Your unscientific political spin is such a joke.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/country/united-states/
for you to have an aneurysm about gyms so that he can count it as a covid death.
Don't be so quick to discount the effect A/C has on humans spending more time indoors.
I suspect that Mexico has a larger percentage of people living with extended families than we do in the US. That may be a cause close contact even though they do not have as much A/C.
Speaking about the Black Death,in late Feb.Mars,Jupiter,Saturn,and Pluto were nearly conjunct in Capricorn for the first time since 1350.It looked good watching them-except Pluto-next to the crescent Moon.
For more doom:George Ure of Urban Survival is predicting a death total of 500,000 by NYE.Given the Sun Belt and West Coast population,it may be possible.The Northeast is done with it.Just quarantine the rest of the country and let's open up here.
For more doom:George Ure of Urban Survival is predicting a death total of 500,000 by NYE.Given the Sun Belt and West Coast population,it may be possible.The Northeast is done with it.Just quarantine the rest of the country and let's open up here.
They are still rioting in Austin, I haven't seen any updates on Houston.
Google to keep employees home until July 2021. I believe we have not seen (close) to full economic impact of Covid in the United States.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/google...er-2021-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-11595854201
https://www.wsj.com/articles/google...er-2021-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-11595854201
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If it weren't so funny I'd report Numbers for all his goofball political spin. He tries to celebrate how great CA is doing because of its D-Governor and criticizes the R governors in AZ, TX and FL...but puts all the blame on Trump for the failures of D's Cuomo, Murphy, Lamont in NY, NJ and CT.
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this doesn't really do anything to diminish or hold back the economic output of the company. may have an effect on public transit and gas demand, but not much else.
Most large companies will shift more to a WFH environment where possible. Cutting corporate real estate space is going to be the goal over the next few years.
Rather than a swift top-down ‘08 style recession: banks crunched for capital, big companies feeling a liquidity squeeze, etc. (it was really the service sector that got the recovery going), we’ll see something different in 2020-21.
Seems like we’re more likely to see a bottom-up recession this time. So far the large companies have been resilient, but I think of all of the small businesses, retailers, and food / services companies that rely on daily traffic of humans showing up to workplaces. Service industry will be gutted in a slow, relentless grind.
I think we are in the first or second inning of this. I think your post is solid, but large segments of the US economy: Hotels, airlines, casinos, movie theaters, oil and gas (less travel), automobile sales, tourism, cruise industry, etc. etc are all going to be really hurt in to the foreseeable future. We are looking at an 85% or less economy for (at least) the next six months unless something drastically changes. If the real estate market starts to tumble.....
We’ll see after November...Where did your data calculations of 85% come from ? I would love to see the factual evidence so I can compare mine.
Who are you people?
I am out and about responsibly and basically only gave up going to my gym. I workout at home and take nice long walks
I follow a safe lifestyle with very minor inconvenience.
Another blow to big cities (along with the riots), for example Manhattan is going to be a shell of itself if a majority of it's workforce is working for home, it will be a death knell for all the restaurants and bars that in the past thrived on happy hours and the already weaken infrastructure of the city's mass transit systems will take a direct hit as revenue will take a sharp dive, even we'll feel the hit as NJ Transit and PATHs coffers will be just a fraction of what it was pre-Covid-19.
But NYC might never be the same, shame because I love hanging there.
US GDP was $19.36T in Feb 2020. The last report in May (link below) has us at $17.03T. US Personal household savings rate has been largely between 7%-8% for the last 10+ years. It was 33% in April and 23% in May (link below). None of that is good news for a 75% consumer driven economy.
Most economists now agree there is no V-shaped recovery coming.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_monthly_real_gdp
https://www.statista.com/statistics/246268/personal-savings-rate-in-the-united-states-by-month/
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Good News is that as of this morning...AZ TX and FL are all now in the the "blue" downward trend category of number of cases as noted on the Hopkins website. They have obviously crested in numbers of cases and are moving toward a more controlled situation. Unfortunately NJ is for the first time in weeks, now in the upward trend for numbers of cases.
Another amazing thing I noticed today that is not talked about, The states of NJ & NY alone have had more deaths (48K) than total deaths in many Countries ! And many of those that were hit the hardest.... France-30K, Italy-35K, UK - 45K, Spain - 28K, Iran - 16K
It will be interesting to see how it evolves
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