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COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...

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So, back to vaccines - today both Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech announced that phase 3 testing of their mRNA-based vaccines is starting today, joining Oxford/Astra Zeneca, who started their phase III trial with their chimp adenovirus (with pieces of the SARS-CoV-2 proteins spliced in) a couple of weeks ago. Good to see more progress being made. And now we wait (and see what other vaccines make it to phase III).

https://investors.modernatx.com/new...phase-3-cove-study-mrna-vaccine-against-covid

https://biontechse.gcs-web.com/news...ch-choose-lead-mrna-vaccine-candidate-against
 
Yes, there is some evidence faceshields are not as effective as masks. Not being face-fitting is also part of the reason cloth/surgical masks aren't quite as good as N95's.

I've been wearing a 30 cent surgical mask for the past 5 months exposed to thousands of people at my job.... They all work if everyone wears something over their face indoors... For us in the "essential" line of business... Any type of face covering works as long as everyone is wearing cuz we are not esposed to each other long enough to transmit the virus...
 
It's not random and never has been. It's based on science, where there are significantly greater risks in places where people are breathing heavily/shouting/singing etc., as those activities expel more viruses at larger velocities. It doesn't mean ways can't be figured out to make them safe, but there's no doubt that just mask wearing may not be enough for gyms, while it's enough for much lower risk activities, like shopping or even mass transit (unless some moron is screaming).


no, his decision to keep gyms closed is random...hello we are wearing mask in gyms....can you find me any data about outbreaks in gyms in the us since they are open in 47 states
 
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So it’s hilarious that people can’t do normal activities like going to a gym? The gym owners are going out of business yet u find it funny? Do u even want this thing to go away.


to them its funny because they somehow have a hard on against me and they dont go to the gym so its no big deal, just like they dont go to church so its no big deal...but PROTEST...hey how dare you try and say its spread that way
 
Yup. America's hospitals, big pharma and the shadow government are all in on this big Covid scam. The goal seems to be to destroy the US economy so we can make you wear a mask.

Do you really want to get into this with me?????? I've been in an "essential" line of work for the past 4+months during this... Working 50+hrs a week... Dealing with hundreds of people every day!!! Yet neither I... or any other co-workers have contracted the virus so far... (double digit employees where i work)... I have NEVER said that this was a SCAM!!! But dont you dare get on your supposed "High Horse" and tell me for one second that i dont know what i'm talking about... Cuz im out there exposed and living in this nightmare EVERY GODDAMN DAY!!!! I dont fear this now nearly as much as i did in March.. But that hasn't stopped any of us from taking the same precautions now, as we did back then!!!
 
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So, back to vaccines - today both Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech announced that phase 3 testing of their mRNA-based vaccines is starting today, joining Oxford/Astra Zeneca, who started their phase III trial with their chimp adenovirus (with pieces of the SARS-CoV-2 proteins spliced in) a couple of weeks ago. Good to see more progress being made. And now we wait (and see what other vaccines make it to phase III).

https://investors.modernatx.com/new...phase-3-cove-study-mrna-vaccine-against-covid

https://biontechse.gcs-web.com/news...ch-choose-lead-mrna-vaccine-candidate-against

What it all comes down to. Will be interesting to see what kind of whispers come out in the next 2 months.

Also, something about the Oxford vaccine rubs me the wrong way. Hacking a chimp virus seems a little sketchy.
 
to them its funny because they somehow have a hard on against me and they dont go to the gym so its no big deal, just like they dont go to church so its no big deal...but PROTEST...hey how dare you try and say its spread that way

Wrong. I was opposed to protesting, too.
 
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love it...you with no medical degree basically repeating msnbc talking points on every subject for the past 4 years dismissing what real medical doctors who have treated covid patients have to say

Amazing ..you, who is visibly nowhere near as intelligent as Hoops, questioning him for not drooling over your latest handpicked "medical" opinion and questioning the integrity of a fly-by-night organization.

What's Dr. Drew's take? He's a doctor too!!
 
Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM
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Dr. Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM, is a board certified emergency physician. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School to earn her Juris Doctorate degree. She completed her residency in Emergency Medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York. Dr. Gold worked in Washington D.C. for the Surgeon General, as well as for the Chairman of the Labor & Human Resources Committee. She works as an emergency physician on the front-lines whether or not there is a pandemic. Her clinical work serves all Americans: from urban-inner city, to suburban and the Native American population. Her legal work focuses on policy issues relating to law and medicine.
 
This woman is passionate.


Passionate, but very likely not very knowledgeable about clinical trials or evidence based medicine. She says she treats people in her office/clinic, which are much less likely to be very sick, plus she refuses to share any information about her patients, which is never a good sign. Also, going to the far right media and Twitter are not the usual paths for medical science. If she thinks she has the "cure" she should know that she needs to publish this work, so her medical peers can review it and if it holds up, follow it (she's also using steroids in many cases, which were just shown to significantly reduce mortality).

And she rants and raves a lot, even on her Twitter, which is not a good look. And my guess is that if she published anything it might resemble the awful Zelenko "paper," touting the HCQ/Az/Zn combo in his "study," which was not randomized or controlled in any way (no data on those not taking the combo at all - nothing on demographics, severity of illness, progression of illness - nothing) - no reputable journal will publish his paper without any information on his "control" population.

 
Study behind that article on dogs being able to smell Covid. Amazing stuff. I wonder if there are false positives if you’re sick with something else or just ate a clove of garlic.

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-020-05281-3
says it all....$$$$
ooh you hurt me so bad, such a standard response from the left
I believe this to be a political post... I thought he knew that “dieser I verboten“.
 
I work in a hardware store... But someone who is supposed to be a medical examiner ruled a motrorcycle accident as Covid19 death cuz someone who crashed.. had tested positive months earlier... I am not trying to downplay this virus... But C'MON MAN!!! a Motorcycle accident in July WAS NOT CAUSED BY COVID19 in MARCH!!! If someone who has cancer dies the same way... would they rule that a cancer death???? just sayin...
We already told you that is fake news that has already been debunked.
 
Good to see Arizona deaths fall off a cliff. Great news!
I said this last week after I spoke to my family who live in Arizona ... several in the medical field... but I was harshly criticized by one of the youngsters who claims to understand law or is a lawyer or who cares. Good to see...guessing the death patrol will not sleep well tonite ...Carry on board.
 
I said this last week after I spoke to my family who live in Arizona ... several in the medical field... but I was harshly criticized by one of the youngsters who claims to understand law or is a lawyer or who cares. Good to see...guessing the death patrol will not sleep well tonite ...Carry on board.
Deaths are always lowest on Sunday/ Monday.
 
I said this last week after I spoke to my family who live in Arizona ... several in the medical field... but I was harshly criticized by one of the youngsters who claims to understand law or is a lawyer or who cares. Good to see...guessing the death patrol will not sleep well tonite ...Carry on

I'm sure they will reply with something like the death toll in always lowest on Monday's or something to that effect.

It's upsetting news to a few of them.
 
Deaths are always lowest on Sunday/ Monday.
How did I know it was you Greg2020 ...your too easy .... you must be beside yourself after that report came out... you follow me like stink on shit...go back in your hole.. “ is that mom calling you .”
 
How did I know it was you Greg2020 ...your too easy .... you must be beside yourself after that report came out... you follow me like stink on shit...go back in your hole.. “ is that mom calling you .”
I mean Arizona had 7 deaths last sunday and only a few monday, and then had tons throughout the rest of the week, but if you wanna call names go for it.
 
Alright guys enough is enough with the bickering, bringing up politics, etc. This thread isn't meant for that and we are dangerously close to locking this one too.
Whose bickering Richie ... I have some clown telling me that ChrisRU99 and I should get a room just after I sent the kid 2 posts which were good ...go read them... then Greg2020 pops up after I mentioned in a return post to Proud NJ Fan about my family in Arizona who last week claimed the reports were over the top...And of course the “death “ over the weekend is brought up ...
 
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