NC State got a bye with the #307 non conference SOS
Its actually 244
And they lost to Kansas
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NC State got a bye with the #307 non conference SOS
Net 5 points lower . 8-8 Q1 /2 vs. RU that should have been 11-9. Even 20-10 we played 4 more Quad 1/2 (tougher) teams.NC State got a bye with the #307 non conference SOS
You don't need it.....show me Providences quality OOC games.....I'll wait....mWhen you have 4 q3 but dont possess one quality non conference win of note
It does because your chasing the bogus neutral site win instead of just picking up the W at home...no one is looking at these sheets.
$hit happens. SHU was a pretty decent team when we played them right after the OSU game.Don’t lose to Minn and SHU
Schedule is one part..not the only part
The whole thing is you need to clean up multiple things
Stop taking bad losses
Stop sending a message that you are afraid to play anyone
Stop having 4-5 holes on a roster
a home loss would have hurt us more than the neutral site loss did.
Doesn’t matter…But a home win, obviously is different.....tell me what playing Temple in Mohegan Sun or St Bona in Toronto did....or UMass in Amherst......none of these games are relevant to resumes.....
Well then I humbly apologize to you. I must have you confused with somebody else.No? I am not a bracketologist for one thing. For another thing, I said I thought “we were still in Dayton and sweating” though I will admit I was pretty confident we were in by today. But we were in on the vast majority of brackets in the bracket matrix too, so, *shrug*
I usually agree with you, but Pike needs to do better. From Carino's story, linked in another thread: "A non-conference stretch of schedule ranked 342s out of 363 teams surely didn’t help, either."Don't leave the RAC and play bogus games in Mohegan Sun, Toronto or anywhere else.
Run up the score and play Q3/Q4 like Iowa NC State and others do. You schedule too many potential losses like Michigan, Oklahoma State and others and you get no rewards.
Doesn’t matter…
You have to win the games you’re supposed to. We should beat Temole..we lost! We should beat SHU..we lost! We should beat Minny..we lost!
Doesn’t matter if we played Gonzaga and lost…a better loss? Sure! Still a loss
Agreed.We were favored against Minnesota, Northwestern and Nebraska late in the year
Win the games you should
I usually agree with you, but Pike needs to do better. From Carino's story, linked in another thread: "A non-conference stretch of schedule ranked 342s out of 363 teams surely didn’t help, either."
That's some real weak sauce scheduling.
But I wouldn’t call that them having a good schedule.NC State had one quad 1 win and got a bye out of Dayton. Didn’t have bad losses
That’s the biggest problem. our NET sucked last year with a similar profile and we got in, our NET was great especially next to PItt and some others and get screwed this year. Looks like lots of politics with the bubble teams.It’s a different committee every year with seemingly different criteria every year. Who the f knows what they will value next year
If we get any softer it will be scheduling the Jersey HS Group 2 Champion.Lol how much softer should our OOC schedule be?
That's a weird take, I'm not "listening" to Carino- just recounting the fact that our OOC schedule is weak sauce. You can also thank 4 quad 3/4 losses (just like Clemson, who is crying foul over NC State), and the committee mentioned RU and injuries. Add the three together, and we are out. Take one away, and maybe we are in. That's me listening to myself. Too many negatives--three strikes and we were out.Your 1st and 2nd mistake is listening to Jerry Carino.....that's a separate discussion.
If someone wants to highlight Providence, Nevada, NCStates OOC slate, I'll listen or look at it....
Lol how much softer should our OOC schedule be?
THAT SIGHT IS TOTALLY INACCURATE AND I KEEP SEEING IT POSTED HEREThat's a weird take, I'm not "listening" to Carino- just recounting the fact that our OOC schedule is weak sauce. You can also thank 4 quad 3/4 losses (just like Clemson, who is crying foul over NC State), and the committee mentioned RU and injuries. Add the three together, and we are out. Take one away, and maybe we are in. That's me listening to myself. Too many negatives--three strikes and we were out.
But to answer your question, we (84) were below NC State (66) and Nevada (61) in Non-Conference SOS rankings. In this one, and several others:
NCAA College Basketball Non-Conference SOS Rankings
NCAA College Basketball Non-Conference SOS Rankings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAB computer power rankings.www.teamrankings.com
It does because your chasing the bogus neutral site win instead of just picking up the W at home...no one is looking at the
If we want to be considered at TOP type program, there is no reason not to play in those "cool" tourneys. I don't care about the ramifications dealing with the NCAA tournament. Who says we can't win those games if we think we are a good team and program.Exactly, fans arent paying attention, they just want to say RU played cool Holiday Tournament games. It doesn't appear to matter based on results today.
The key is getting to 20 wins and being .500 in your conference. Stop with this neutral game crap.....if someone tells me the ACC has a better league or schedule than the B1G, good luck with that.
Rutgers loss six out of the last eight games which was the main reason for non selection.You are what your record says you are.In Rutgers case they were outstanding on defense and mediocre on offense.As such Rutgers was a bubble team just like last season.Rutgers over came obstacles and achieved 19 wins and yes the Ohio State loss will always be upsetting to fans.Bottom line living on the bubble isn't a way to sustain success.everyone looking for excuses....this is ridiculous
Katz reported that we only had 1 of the TEN Q1 wins without Mag...so minny wasn't the factor.
this reaks of wheeling and dealing...let's call this what it is
we got screwed. only Rutgers fans look for reasons to blame ourselves for getting @ss raped...
THE GUY FROM THE NCAA JUST SAID ON ESPN THAT RUTGERS INJURY ISSUE AND SEEING THEM NOT ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT IN THE GAMES THEY SAW PLUS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PICK UP QUALITY NON CONFERENCE GAMES WAS WHY THEY FELL SHORT
I said one of many. Find another- our OOC schedule was not great, not even good, not even mediocre.THAT SIGHT IS TOTALLY INACCURATE
THE GUY FROM THE NCAA JUST SAID ON ESPN THAT RUTGERS INJURY ISSUE AND SEEING THEM NOT ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT IN THE GAMES THEY SAW PLUS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PICK UP QUALITY NON CONFERENCE GAMES WAS WHY THEY FELL SHORT
Yeah but Pike says the B1G is enough of a gauntlet. We should schedule SHU, pray for ND/Louisville in the challenge and 8 against the likes of the SCLSU Muddogs.THE GUY FROM THE NCAA JUST SAID ON ESPN THAT RUTGERS INJURY ISSUE AND SEEING THEM NOT ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT IN THE GAMES THEY SAW PLUS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PICK UP QUALITY NON CONFERENCE GAMES WAS WHY THEY FELL SHORT
Why did we get screwed? What’s the rationale? Just RU hate?You don't need it.....show me Providences quality OOC games.....I'll wait....m
The committee does not have consistent principles, they are retroactively applying whatever they can use against Rutgers. That is all that's happening here.THE GUY FROM THE NCAA JUST SAID ON ESPN THAT RUTGERS INJURY ISSUE AND SEEING THEM NOT ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT IN THE GAMES THEY SAW PLUS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PICK UP QUALITY NON CONFERENCE GAMES WAS WHY THEY FELL SHORT
this this thisThe committee does not have consistent principles, they are retroactively applying whatever they can use against Rutgers. That is all that's happening here.
Pitt was 67 in NET. That is supposed to be a very important metricsWe were a -1.2 wins above bubble
Pitt was -0.4
Everyone else was positive.
Providence tooThis!! Ridiculous!
Pitt? NC State? Nevada?
Joke!