OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY

[e5fdny]

More endangered whales. Damned windmills.

Orca Moms Pay a High Price to Feed Large Adult Sons

After a female dives to catch a salmon, she surfaces with it sideways in her mouth. Her son lurks over her shoulder. This feeding continues throughout his life.

www.seattletimes.com

Is that the equivalent of living in your parent's basement?

And who knew Killer Whales were Irish.🤷‍♂️

 

[Knight Shift]

An alternative band, Car Seat Headrest, wrote a song comparing the social ills of captive killer whales and teenage drunk driving.

According to the lyrical interpretation linked below:

"Killer whales, despite their name, pose no threat to humans when in the wild. In captivity, the whales undergo extreme stress and have consequently been found to lash out and have caused deaths. Will could be comparing teens as captives of society. As captives, teens often lash out through actions that unfortunately cause physical and emotion pain, such as driving drunk."


The takeaway here is the ships and windmills are saving human lives.

It doesn't have to be like this / It doesn't have to be like this / It doesn't have to be like this / Killer whales, killer whales / It doesn't have to be like this / It doesn't have to be like this / It doesn't have to be like this / Killer whales,

Will is referencing Tilikum, a killer whale at SeaWorld that caused the deaths of three individuals. Tilikum was the subject of the 2013 documentary Blackfish, which concerns the controversy of captive killer whales. Will is cleverly comparing these consequences of animal captivity and its...

genius.com

 

[Knight Shift]

Here comes the world's first offshore wind seaweed farm

E-commerce giant Amazon is funding the world’s first commercial-scale seaweed farm that will sit between offshore wind turbines.

electrek.co

 

[NotInRHouse]

All of a sudden nobody cares about whales anymore

They've moved expertise. This week they're train experts.

 

[Knight Shift]

They've moved expertise. This week they're train experts.

Cargo trains, particularly trains carrying hazardous materials, seriously need some more regulation. I think I am turning into Ralph Nader! I advocated more federal regulation of self-driving vehicles in the EV vehicle thread.

 

[Knight Shift]

They've moved expertise. This week they're train experts.

Anybody you know?

Nice hat!!!

WTF with the sign on the right?

Hundreds attend rally to save whales in Point Pleasant Beach

Hundreds attended Sunday's rally to save the whales at Point Pleasant Beach following the death of several whales and three dolphins.

www.app.com

 

[Knight Shift]

Nobody cares about the dolphins?

Three dolphins died after thrashing while stranded at Sandy Hook Saturday: What we know

Three dolphins died on the bayside of Gateway National Recreation Area in Sandy Hook Saturday morning

www.app.com

 

[newell138]

Nobody cares about the dolphins?

Three dolphins died after thrashing while stranded at Sandy Hook Saturday: What we know

Three dolphins died on the bayside of Gateway National Recreation Area in Sandy Hook Saturday morning

www.app.com

It’s all normal. Nothing to be concerned about. These things happen.

 

[mildone]

I like and care about whales and dolphins and all wildlife a whole lot more than I care about wind turbines, or political parties or energy companies.

But there is still no evidence that wind turbines are responsible for any of these things. And ample evidence of other causes for deaths of ocean life have been presented.

This thread has been fairly low information all along, and is trending towards disinformation. Hey look, it’s overcast today. That must prove that the sun is about to die. Oh no.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Anybody you know?

Nice hat!!!

WTF with the sign on the right?

Hundreds attend rally to save whales in Point Pleasant Beach

Hundreds attended Sunday's rally to save the whales at Point Pleasant Beach following the death of several whales and three dolphins.

www.app.com

Point Pleasant has to be a top 3 NJ town for people watching.

The cross section of folks there, no matter the time of year...yikes...

 

[RUBOB72]

10 whales and counting since December. Activists at Jersey Shore today want the truth. “ you don’t wanna know the truth .”

 

[RUBlackout7]

10 whales and counting since December. Activists at Jersey Shore today want the truth. “ you don’t wanna know the truth .”

We already know the truth, boats and fishing. Keep up.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I feel like people's sexual behavior is essentially the choice of people actually having sex.

75% of the Republican Congressional caucus hasn't had sex in decades, 20% of them are closeted homosexuals and the other 5% are vehemently pro-abortion because they stick their dicks in anything that identifies as Under 18.

I don't like people telling me how to drive my car. I don't like people telling me how to drink my whiskey. I don't like people telling me what to do with my weed. I figure it's not appropriate for me to tell anyone what to do with their vagina / uterus.

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[bac2therac]

Dozens of NJ mayors call for immediate offshore wind moratorium after latest whale deaths

Thirty mayors representing communities along the New Jersey coast are calling for an immediate moratorium on offshore wind development in response to a spate of whale deaths.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Knight Shift]

Dozens of NJ mayors call for immediate offshore wind moratorium after latest whale deaths

Thirty mayors representing communities along the New Jersey coast are calling for an immediate moratorium on offshore wind development in response to a spate of whale deaths.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Knight Shift]

Headline from today's Coast Star:

Cause of whale death still undetermined Following necropsy, Marine Mammal Stranding Center posts
caution against ‘jumping to conclusions’


BY SOPHIE DIEHL
AND MACKENZIE FITCHETT
THE COAST STAR

MANASQUAN — More than a week after an initial necropsy report on the dead whale in
Manasquan was issued by the Marine Mam- mal Stranding Center [MMSC], the cause of the
mammal’s death re- mained undetermined.
The initial report cited internal signs of a possible vessel strike in the examination of 15-ton
hump- back whale, but as of press time on Wednesday, the MMSC was continuing its investigation
and discouraging unproven speculation about wind power development work off the East Coast as a
possible cause in of death for nine whales that have washed up on Jersey shore beaches since
early December.

Another:

Mayor holds off signing wind farm petition

BY TOMMY WATTERS
THE COAST STAR
LAKE COMO — With the numerous
whale carcasses washing
up on the Jersey Shore recently,
Mayor Kevin Higgins
said he has been receiving
numerous emails asking him
to sign the petition calling for
a moratorium on the o shore
wind farm that is being constructed
o the coast.
Mayor Higgins said he will
not be signing this until he has
better educated himself on
the pros and cons of o shore
wind farms.

 

[e5fdny]

Headline from today's Coast Star:

Cause of whale death still undetermined Following necropsy, Marine Mammal Stranding Center posts
caution against ‘jumping to conclusions’


BY SOPHIE DIEHL
AND MACKENZIE FITCHETT
THE COAST STAR

MANASQUAN — More than a week after an initial necropsy report on the dead whale in
Manasquan was issued by the Marine Mam- mal Stranding Center [MMSC], the cause of the
mammal’s death re- mained undetermined.
The initial report cited internal signs of a possible vessel strike in the examination of 15-ton
hump- back whale, but as of press time on Wednesday, the MMSC was continuing its investigation
and discouraging unproven speculation about wind power development work off the East Coast as a
possible cause in of death for nine whales that have washed up on Jersey shore beaches since
early December.

Another:

Mayor holds off signing wind farm petition

BY TOMMY WATTERS
THE COAST STAR
LAKE COMO — With the numerous
whale carcasses washing
up on the Jersey Shore recently,
Mayor Kevin Higgins
said he has been receiving
numerous emails asking him
to sign the petition calling for
a moratorium on the offshore
wind farm that is being constructed
off the coast.
* Mayor Higgins said he will
not be signing this until he has
better educated himself on
the pros and cons of offshore
wind farms.

He's got no beach, no say.

* And I guess he hasn't got paid yet either. LOL

 

[Knight Shift]

He's got no beach, no say.

* And I guess he hasn't got paid yet either. LOL

Besides Loch Arbour, one of the strangest excuses for a "town" (or borough) at the shore. No police dept, no fire dept, no rescue squad. Why not merge?

 

[e5fdny]

Besides Loch Arbour, one of the strangest excuses for a "town" (or borough) at the shore. No police dept, no fire dept, no rescue squad. Why not merge?

They do have a Board of Ed, though…with no schools.

Some buildings and the occasional vehicle still say “South Belmar” on them.

But they do throw a great ☘️🇮🇪 Parade (with Belmar).

 

[T2Kplus20]

@newell138
OC needs more class! I wonder if the Mayor's business partner will have his new project approved? :)

Huge $150M hotel proposed on Jersey Shore town’s boardwalk, beachfront

Icona Resorts would need to acquire the land and clear other hurdles before beginning the project on the Ocean City Boardwalk.

www.nj.com

 

[newell138]

@newell138
OC needs more class! I wonder if the Mayor's business partner will have his new project approved? :)

Huge $150M hotel proposed on Jersey Shore town’s boardwalk, beachfront

Icona Resorts would need to acquire the land and clear other hurdles before beginning the project on the Ocean City Boardwalk.

www.nj.com

I don’t see where this would fit on the area mentioned. Lil Shady and why people have been skeptical when Icona bailed out Gillians amusements

 

[T2Kplus20]

I don’t see where this would fit on the area mentioned. Lil Shady and why people have been skeptical when Icona bailed out Gillians amusements

This was likely part of the bailout deal.

 

[newell138]

This was likely part of the bailout deal.

Saw the drawings. I’ll be shocked if this happens.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Saw the drawings. I’ll be shocked if this happens.

That would block ocean views and ocean breezes from many, many properties behind it.

 

[T2Kplus20]

Saw the drawings. I’ll be shocked if this happens.

The Icona in Avalon is very nice, but these plans look way out of place for this land (and adjacent to a boardwalk).

 

[mildone]

That would block ocean views and ocean breezes from many, many properties behind it.

If you look closely, you can see the shadow from a wind-turbine over the beach. And a depression in the sand left by a dead whale carcass.

 

[newell138]

That would block ocean views and ocean breezes from many, many properties behind it.

Add in OCHS is one of the only high schools on the beach and this would be put in between. As much as the town could use a good hotel that block is just way too small and seems too congested already

 

[ashokan]

Last week I heard one of the best podcasts (about anything) ever.

An original Greenpeace founder spoke about environmental evolution, climate, ecology, geodynamics, carbon and other topics in macro-micro scales. I had to just stop what I was doing and watch the universe open-up. You'll never look at the earth the same.


https://rumble.com/v2ado78-cofounder-of-greenpeace-dr.-patrick-moore-tpc-1106.html

 

[Zak57]

We used to rent a home on that street in OC for years. Would be a horrible idea to add a hotel.

 

[rutgersdave]

We used to rent a home on that street in OC for years. Would be a horrible idea to add a hotel.

Yup, been renting at E 6th st for years right across from the school.

 

[T2Kplus20]

Yup, been renting at E 6th st for years right across from the school.

Such a great area of OC. We always do an afternoon/evening in OC while in SH. We park in the public lot and normal have a Piccini dinner on the picnic benches by the tennis courts. Then head over to Gillian's and the boardwalk with the little one. Can't imagine such a big hotel dumped on that land.

 

[CERU00]

That would block ocean views and ocean breezes from many, many properties behind it.

Who are those people on the Beach? They certainly aren't Americans.

 

[T2Kplus20]

Another rendering of the immediate area:

:

 

[T2Kplus20]

By the way, the Mayor should 100% recuse himself from these proceedings and offer no public comments on the proposal whatsoever (since he is business partners with the Icona owner). Even if the plan is ultimately approved, this is setting up a long legal battle with opponents:

$150 Million Luxury Hotel Proposed for Ocean City Boardwalk | OCNJ Daily

The owner of a luxury resort brand at the Jersey Shore unveiled plans Thursday night to develop a high-end hotel that would represent an epic transformation of the Ocean City Boardwalk. Eustace Mita, chairman and chief executive officer of Icona Resorts, said his proposed hotel project would...

ocnjdaily.com

 

[RU4Real]

By the way, the Mayor should 100% recluse himself from these proceedings and offer no public comments on the proposal whatsoever (since he is business partners with the Icona owner). Even if the plan is ultimately approved, this is setting up a long legal battle with opponents:

$150 Million Luxury Hotel Proposed for Ocean City Boardwalk | OCNJ Daily

The owner of a luxury resort brand at the Jersey Shore unveiled plans Thursday night to develop a high-end hotel that would represent an epic transformation of the Ocean City Boardwalk. Eustace Mita, chairman and chief executive officer of Icona Resorts, said his proposed hotel project would...

ocnjdaily.com

"recluse"?

Seems drastic.

 

[T2Kplus20]

"recluse"?

Seems drastic.

Damn AI typing bot with the extra letter. :)

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Another rendering of the immediate area:

:

Like how they minimized the shadows it will cast. On the plus side.. would be a nice venue for town events.. weddings, proms, etc... as well as those surrounding towns too.

 

[tom1944]

So, it would basically be double the size of the Essex and Sussex in Spring Lake.

I wonder how the size of the lots compare.

Here is a picture.

Essex & Sussex - Country Club Weddings - Spring Lake, NJ - WeddingWire

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I have heard that the Essex and Sussex has not been a great success as a business. They are selling the rooms as over 55 condos now.

It has not seemed to hurt the surrounding area of Spring Lake

 

[e5fdny]

So, it would basically be double the size of the Essex and Sussex in Spring Lake.

I wonder how the size of the lots compare.

Here is a picture.

Essex & Sussex - Country Club Weddings - Spring Lake, NJ - WeddingWire

Contact Essex & Sussex in Spring Lake on WeddingWire. Browse Country Club Weddings prices, photos and 5 reviews, with a rating of 5 out of 5

www.weddingwire.com

I have heard that the Essex and Sussex has not been a great success as a business. They are selling the rooms as over 55 condos now.

It has not seemed to hurt the surrounding area of Spring Lake

It’s been there for 100yrs. So has the surrounding area. The “shadow” in this case has been there that long too.

And the 55yr an older thing seems to be making money for the people who bought and sold them later.

 

[tom1944]

It’s been there for 100yrs. So has the surrounding area. The “shadow” in this case has been there that long too.

And the 55yr an older thing seems to be making money for the people who bought and sold them later.

I understand that
And while I generally favor building I favor it as long as that is within the zoning that existed when the property was purchased.

I am not a fan of zoning changes that are either to stop someone from building or allowing someone to build by circumventing the conditions that existed when they purchased the property