This is the very type of brain fog that mumbles right past the fact that Conforto is a good hitter.
OT: New York Mets 2020 season
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I see Conforto as constantly improving and above average hitter. And for being a 30HR guy, his ratio of K’s is about normal but he does get quite a few walks.
A good Met...
A good Met...
Good game last night by Conforto, Davis, Peterson. Heres hoping thre bullpen finally got their heads out their arses and pitch better
Let's hope Cohen gets the Mets before this has a chance
Conforto ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Mets still have another year of control.
Will Cohen have the Mets by then? If not, Conforto is gone.
Conforto has the traits to be a good hitter, but he hasn't put it all together just yet. A .254 career batting average doesn't say good hitter. Conforto has moments during the season where he is a great hitter, but his problem is during it enough times that at the end of the season, he has a solid batting average. His strikeouts totals continue to climb each season. Conforto was 32nd in the league in total strikeouts. Almost all of those on the strikeout leader board hit for a poor average. When I think of a solid batting average, I'm thinking in the range of .285 or better. Only Yoan Moncada hit for a high average (.315).
Before you go with this On-base percentage thing or some other nerd stat, think about the timing of some of Conforto's AB. Just the other night, he came up twice with an opportunity to help the Mets, and each time he struck out. For the most part, he hasn't delivered like a first-rounder. I want Conforto to have success, but let's not paint him as a saint.
Last year, Conforto was 19th in OPS in the NL, 20th in OBP. Right now he's 16th in OPS, 22d in OBP. He's a good hitter.
Your selective memory of particular at bats and obsession with where he was drafted is part of your brain fog. You're loaded with it. You also have a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between good and perfect.
Your selective memory of particular at bats and obsession with where he was drafted is part of your brain fog. You're loaded with it. You also have a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between good and perfect.
The plan is to complete the sale by the end of this year. No guarantee it will be Cohen but he is the favorite. If so, that raises more questions than it answers:
- Will Cohen (or whomever) be an active Steinbrenner type owner, or a passive checkwriter? Or somewhere in between?
- Will he hire a new GM?
- If so, will that GM be given latitude to build the team, or will he be under a "win now" edict? I'm guessing the latter.
I wouldn't get caught up in the "more questions than it answers" aspect of things. No matter how much yammering we do on the internet or overthinking we obsess through, none of us will be able to answer whether the new owners will run the franchise well. But we have loads of evidence that the current owners, particularly the doofy son with his pick for GM of BVW-WTF, run the franchise badly. So getting them out is excellent news. Then we hope about the new ownership.
I feel with all of the analytics in baseball, it takes away from the skills of the player. Stats are great for an overview of a player, but in the heat of the moment, the analytics don't take into account the mental make-up of the player and how he handles it. As for where Conforto was drafted, it does make a difference. The time and energy invested in knowing everything there is to know about a franchise-type player is different from later round picks. So you're expected to produce more and have better results than most.
Do you know the funny thing about all of this? I just apply for a position at MLB for data analytics.
You're stuck on BA way too much. McNeil is amazing but BA isn't the end all.
Conforto deserves a lot of money and we should be the ones to give it to him.
McNeil does need to develop other aspects of his offensive game. He could work the count more and it would lead to more walks. You have to understand where I'm coming from. I've coach 20 years of HS football and 15 HS baseball. I'm more concerned with the weaknesses in a player's game and fixing it. You are more likely to lose a game by what you can't do more so than what you can do. This is why you scout players and teams to understand how to attack them. I have concerns about Conforto and McNeil, but more so about Conforto, because he's getting away from what was his strength, and that is being a strong hitter. There was a lot more invested in Conforto than McNeil. I'm tired of quality players moving on to other teams and reaching their potential while getting paid.
Zak
I wasn't stuck on BA only. I throw out some stats to make a point.
For your sake, let’s hope that they don’t see this.
I don't disagree in that I feel that Conforto should be better but...
It is his 3rd full time season and in his first two, he has improved in every single stat on the board. Only two stats did not improve. Triples - 1 in each season and Walks, both seasons at 84 which is very good. Every single other stat has improved.
Though, if you told me that I could sign up for a 1st round consistent .250+ hitter with 30HR 90 RBI who is also a clubhouse leader and good team mate...I think I sign up for it. Of course we still want to get superstars every once in a while but look how many 1st round guys fail.
I also think that strange shoulder injury was a big road block as well
Alonso: 22 Ks in 58 AB, 203 AVG. Troubling sign?
We all wouldve been going bonkers if this was Cespedes or Cano.
We all wouldve been going bonkers if this was Cespedes or Cano.
It's not a fake season when everyone is playing by the same rules. And Pete Alonso is not Babe Ruth after one season.
I'll sign up for the results. Conforto is a very important piece to the puzzle, but I'm not calling him a superstar. The Mets need a stud/superstar to carry the load like what David Wright did for years. Guys like Wright take the focus and pressure of others so they can do their job.
Let's hope deGrom makes it through the 5th without ripping his blister and the bullpen dont choke again.
Good news! He just hit into a double play. Phew, what a relief.
Agree with you, his plate performance has been poor this year.
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