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OT: Official 2022 Philadelphia Phillies Season And Post Season Thread

since 1990- there have been 86 Individual No hitters - 12 of them were less than 100 pitches. 37 of them were over 115 pitches.

And since 1900- only 1 pitcher has lost a game while pitching a no hitter
 
they should categorize them separately in the record books. Going through the lineup three times so much more different than going through twice then a bunch of relievers facing a few batters
 
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Halladay was just over 100 when he threw 104 pitches in his near perfect no hitter against the Reds.
Halladay threw 115 pitches in his perfect game earlier in the year against the Florida Marlins. Hard as it may seem to believe, Harvey Haddix threw the same number when he pitched twelve perfect innings, and then lost the game in the 13th, for the PIttsburgh Pirates against the Milwaukee Braves on May 26, 1959. The Braves were then the defending National League champions, and almost won another pennant that year.
 
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Halladay threw 115 pitches in his perfect game earlier in the year against the Florida Marlins. Hard as it may seem to believe, Harvey Haddix threw the same number when he pitched twelve perfect innings, and then lost the game in the 13th, for the PIttsburgh Pirates against the Milwaukee Braves on May 26, 1959. The Braves were then the defending National League champions, and almost won another pennant that year.
I had forgotten about the Harvey Haddix game - thanks for the reminder. Wasn't he a lefty, and not very big?
 
I had forgotten about the Harvey Haddix game - thanks for the reminder. Wasn't he a lefty, and not very big?
You're right on both counts. Haddix was 5'9" and weighed 170 pounds. Little known fact: Haddix was the winning pitcher in game 7 of the 1960 World Series -- the game the Pirates won when Bill Mazerowski homered off the Yankees' Ralph Terry in the bottom of the ninth. The Pirates had used Elroy Face, their relief specialist,, for three innings, and so Bob Friend and then Haddix, both normally starters, were used in the top of the ninth when the Yankees scored two runs to tie the game.
 
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Helped he would get strikes multiple inches off the plate.
And the calling of balls and strikes has just gotten worse since Maddox's time.
I can't wait for the whole "humans calling strikes" thing is replaced by something more accurate.
BTW, if you ever want a good laugh you should check out Alex Rodriguez's take on the calling of balls and strikes.
 
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And the calling of balls and strikes has just gotten worse since Maddox's time.
I can't wait for the whole "humans calling strikes" thing is replaced by something more accurate.
BTW, if you ever want a good laugh you should check out Alex Rodriguez's take on the calling of balls and strikes.
I agree, but I think it's been Ok (not perfect, but OK) in the World Series so far. Of course, these umpires are supposed to be the cream of the crop.

As I understand it, the big problem with a robot is for it to figure out whether a pitch is low or high because batters, being human beings, don't all have the same size. That's something not easily amenable to machine learning. By contrast, it doesn't take much to decide whether a pitch is over the plate.

BTW, I'm not sure the calling of balls and strikes really has gotten worse. I think of Eric Gregg, whose strike zone was a mile wide.
 
And the calling of balls and strikes has just gotten worse since Maddox's time.
I can't wait for the whole "humans calling strikes" thing is replaced by something more accurate.
BTW, if you ever want a good laugh you should check out Alex Rodriguez's take on the calling of balls and strikes.
Humans calling balls and strikes is prehistoric and ridiculous. Also, plays under review should take no more than 30 seconds. If we know the result watching on TV in 10 seconds, there is zero reason for it to take many minutes.
 
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Humans calling balls and strikes is prehistoric and ridiculous. Also, plays under review should take no more than 30 seconds. If we know the result watching on TV in 10 seconds, there is zero reason for it to take many minutes.
It's funny, in a way- I love the imperfect world of balls and strikes. There is a reason those of us that played the game knew that with 2 strikes, you choke up a little and be eady to swing at anything close.
Also- learning which ump called high strikes or low strikes. Pitchers that would get the call just off the black because they have earned it or be that hitter who get's those calls because you have earned it.

Maybe I am in the minority, but it just seems like baseball only if it isn't perfect.
 
K Zone is barely visible during World Series .
Guess mlb doesn’t want every pitch scrutinized. Strike 3 to McCormick in 2nd was 4 inches inside
 
It's funny, in a way- I love the imperfect world of balls and strikes. There is a reason those of us that played the game knew that with 2 strikes, you choke up a little and be eady to swing at anything close.
Also- learning which ump called high strikes or low strikes. Pitchers that would get the call just off the black because they have earned it or be that hitter who get's those calls because you have earned it.

Maybe I am in the minority, but it just seems like baseball only if it isn't perfect.
None of want to see the human element eliminated from sports.

Fortunately, that's why we have human players.
 
MLB umpiring has never bothered me - basketball officiating on the other hand. 😩
 
And the calling of balls and strikes has just gotten worse since Maddox's time.
I can't wait for the whole "humans calling strikes" thing is replaced by something more accurate.
BTW, if you ever want a good laugh you should check out Alex Rodriguez's take on the calling of balls and strikes.

Umpiring, why far from perfect is pretty good now. Even the worst umps average 91% accuracy on the season. The worst game this year is 85% from a guy who only did one game. The best game was 100% in the WS a few days ago.


 
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You can still get complete games if you induce pop ups and ground outs.

That's how they used to do it.

But these days, the hitters are going up to the plate to hit homeruns and so pitchers have adjusted and are going more for strikeouts, which results in inflated pitch counts.

Restricting the shift will change that calculus.
 
Pitchers that would get the call just off the black because they have earned it or be that hitter who get's those calls because you have earned it
See, that's sorta what Arod said and I think it's stupid. You shouldn't "earn" a bigger or smaller strike zone. The ball either went over the plate or it didn't. You don't make the plate somehow larger because the pitcher is a veteran. Or smaller because the hitter won some batting titles. They don't need any help anyway. Bad enough they enlarge the strike zone when the count is 3-0.
Why is it so difficult to call balls and strikes fairly ? I only go by what I see, but IMO umpiring has gotten worse lately.
 
The fact that framing pitches is even a thing, much less the most important aspect of a catcher's job, is testament to umpire incompetence.
 
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Ball is way out of the strike zone where most MLB players take it.

Nick Castellanos
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I am now 100% sure that I could right now, at my current age play a better defensive 1B than Rhys Hoskins.
 
Nearly every player has had a "moment" this series.

He's due -- I think he comes up big tonight.
Almost had it.

Everything aligned for him to be the hero.

Haven’t really watched much baseball since ‘09.

This Houston team is incredible.

Phillies are seriously punching way above their weight considering we have no protection for Harper in the lineup and a weak bullpen.
 
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