There's the Appalachians in NJ, which are quite nice. But there are no mountain ranges in or near NJ with the altitudes, steep ascents, or variety that you see out west.Where are these great mountains of NJ I see people talking about?
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There's the Appalachians in NJ, which are quite nice. But there are no mountain ranges in or near NJ with the altitudes, steep ascents, or variety that you see out west.Where are these great mountains of NJ I see people talking about?
Point well taken. I still would prefer California over NJ. It is like a mini- country within a country with a wide range of differences between cities such as SF, LA and SD as well as rural areas such as Redding, Tahoe, Course Gold and Temecula. There also is diversity of people / culture between these areas. The weather too is quite different in all of these areas. Overall, just more interesting aspects to explore in the state than NJ and a lot of other states. Washington and Colorado may be the next 2 with that wide range.
"I tend to look for the positive sides of things."I moved to the Atlanta area to go to grad school at Georgia Tech in 1992 and have been here ever since. I love where I am now, but I'd probably be that way anywhere I settled down because I tend to look for the positive sides of things.
What I miss most about NJ: family, the shore, Rutgers, a little more snow would be okay, and White Castle. I almost never went to NYC, just a few times for Broadway, museums, and ball games.
The main thing that kept me from seriously looking to move back to NJ is the cost of living. I have a 5 BR, 3.5 BA house that feeds into excellent schools and my property taxes are around 3000 per year. I'm sure the house purchase cost was far less than a comparable home in NJ, too. The congestion here can be awful too, my commute would be bad if I worked in downtown Atlanta but I don't so it's not usually an issue for me. I love the spring and fall weather here and am used to the hot and humid summers. The new Braves stadium is a 20 minute drive from my house, very convenient.
I've been in the San Fran and LA areas for work on many occasions and cannot imagine living in either place. They obviously appeal to many people and I enjoyed visiting them, but I have zero desire to live in either one. To each his/her own.
Again, you are comparing SF to NJ. I take Manhattan over SF any day. If I live in Hoboken it's more relevant than Southern Cal to Northern Cal. Don't get me wrong. I love SF but not really a good comparison to The state of NJ. SF is also stupid expensive. For that kind of money you can live in a great town in NJ that's near Manhattan.Yep, all SF needs is some nice beaches within 2 or 3 hours .. maybe some of those towering NJ mountains. Then it could compete!
San Diego is very nice, but the housing is rough unless you have dough.We moved from NJ to the Seattle area about a year and a half ago....we do not live in Seattle itself but on the Eastside which is less expensive and close to where I work...in fact I walk in most days. This is a really nice part of the country with a lot of things to do if you like the outdoors (3 national parks within 2 hours or so plus lots of state parks, bike trails). A job opportunity led us to move here and the cost of living is definitely less given there is no state income tax. People think property taxes are high here but it's relative.....we have a house that is 2x the size of house in NJ (2000 vs 4000 square feet) and slightly larger lot but our taxes are about 2/3 of what we were paying in NJ.....school district is better than the one in NJ. I would say weather is somewhat better - summer here is beautiful while winters are warmer though days are short, gray, and wet. I do miss Manhatten and going to Broadway shows and NYC restaurants, the Jersey shore, pizza (terrible here), and the Jersey attitude. I also lived for a 6 years in Miami (grad school), 3 years in Maine (postdoc), and a couple in Massachusetts where my wife was from before we moved back to NJ for 11 years. Miami was my favorite with the warm weather but no good pharma/biotech jobs. I probably wouldn't mind living in San Diego one day.....my wife visited it for the first time when we went in December and really liked it as did my daughter. They haven't been to SF yet.
I go to Seattle for business. Fun city. For good, unique pizza try Serious Pie in downtown. Also Brooklyns in downtown is a good Surf and Turf place.We moved from NJ to the Seattle area about a year and a half ago....we do not live in Seattle itself but on the Eastside which is less expensive and close to where I work...in fact I walk in most days. This is a really nice part of the country with a lot of things to do if you like the outdoors (3 national parks within 2 hours or so plus lots of state parks, bike trails). A job opportunity led us to move here and the cost of living is definitely less given there is no state income tax. People think property taxes are high here but it's relative.....we have a house that is 2x the size of house in NJ (2000 vs 4000 square feet) and slightly larger lot but our taxes are about 2/3 of what we were paying in NJ.....school district is better than the one in NJ. I would say weather is somewhat better - summer here is beautiful while winters are warmer though days are short, gray, and wet. I do miss Manhatten and going to Broadway shows and NYC restaurants, the Jersey shore, pizza (terrible here), and the Jersey attitude. I also lived for a 6 years in Miami (grad school), 3 years in Maine (postdoc), and a couple in Massachusetts where my wife was from before we moved back to NJ for 11 years. Miami was my favorite with the warm weather but no good pharma/biotech jobs. I probably wouldn't mind living in San Diego one day.....my wife visited it for the first time when we went in December and really liked it as did my daughter. They haven't been to SF yet.
Hawaii has the best beaches in America. All the rest are crap in comparison.
I go to Seattle for business. Fun city. For good, unique pizza try Serious Pie in downtown. Also Brooklyns in downtown is a good Surf and Turf place.