He isn't saying anything. He's just blathering at the thought that some student from Camden or Newark will sully New Brunswick/Piscataway. According to NIRH, Rutgers and New Brunswick are synonymous. Glad the central administration doesn't feel that way.
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Well in a way I agree with him.
To say all three are the same or equal is not true. Part of, yes. Same, no.
Who said they were equal? (Although the faculty do go through the same tenure procedure under the same tenure standards and must be approved by the same central committee as in NB, and admission standards are going up at both schools.) The point is that, as you say, they are part of Rutgers, and so their grads deserve to be invited to the biggest event in the history of Rutgers.
My sister and I were the first brother and sister to graduate together (1975) from Rutgers College NB (we think). RC didn't admit women until 1972(and not many those first couple of years). She skipped her senior year in HS. Neither one of us went to graduation, and we still regret it a bit.
There is likely 0 families in the entirety of Rutgers University with 10 siblings- There is plenty of families with 3+ kids. I get that you're arguing but that situation is nonsensical.
By that theory, should there be an allocation for other major events, like sports, concerts, speakers, etc?
I am not changing my argument, btw. I understand that the students were previously invited. RU like every other school changes policies. This is all over the news now. If the school decided to limit the event to NB, that is their prerogative.
No, I'm just pointing out the demographic realities which would be the effect at nearly every public university in America. Most are liberal. And in 2016 at most public universities the only clamor to see the "leader" of the Republicans speak, whoever that it is, would be seeking the best aim for a tomato or shouting. Hell even the campus Republicans would likely feel the same.
You can bet that had RU made this event NB only, or sought those 3000 seats fr some other purpose, the local machines in Newark and Camden would have gone full press on money up the turnpike, chalk, etc in a way they would not have if it was a Republican. No was seeking seats for Condi. And I'm not saying that is right, either, as if you're trying to be educated you need to hear every point no matter how abhorrent it is to you personally. Just the way I see it based on how the other campuses act when something good is happening in NB.
Nope you are basically saying they only want to hear from people they agree with. Which is exactly why they not only didn't want to see condi but couldnt stand the idea of her even speaking. Similar to the gay conservative speech they tried to ruin. Yes, part of being educated is hearing opposing views. I actually was under the impression that is part of a universities purpose. Maybe that's why every one of your posts reads the same.
My sister in law is one of 11. My 7th grade son's LAX teammate is one of 10.
Is it out of the ordinary? Sure. Could it happen? Sure.
If it was a Republican POTUS, it would be the same. It's not the person or the party but the Office itself.
Regardless who is sitting in the Oval Office, if they say they're coming to your party...it's a big deal.
And with big deals come big problems like this ticket thing.
gimme a break. There is a big difference between even the biggest football game and the President of the United States coming. And beside, Camden and Newark students can get tickets for football games, and in fact there was a good Camden contingent for Rutgers' victory at Temple a few years back.
Yes, Rutgers could change its policy. But it would be a bad idea.
At least you've dropped your nonsensical Norcross-Sweeney talk. So I guess we have to give you some credit for trying.
Just to continue to prove how dumb your arguments are:
Condi never spoke at Rutgers
Condi isn't the President of the United States.
More embarrassing in fighting makes NJ look small minded. Great national exposure for ru
The other campuses are not "acting" any particular way. It's not as though they're trying to seek something they've never had. And as far as you or I know, neither the chancellor of Camden or Newark is making an issue out of this. The other campuses are just getting what they've always gotten under this format. You're unbelievably off-base on this one.
I never heard of the bolded, but I had no issue with Condi speaking. There are definitely people on both sides who have no interest in hearing the other side, did you miss the original thread on this topic?
Yes they can, now. But if demand goes up, who knows. I mean the student tickets used to be totally free and you didn't have to reserve them.
I don't see an issue with them changing the policy but I can obviously understand why you might disagree with that.
I don't know, we live in a pretty hyper partisan world today. Still, this President is pretty popular, especially here. It should always be an honor, but I do think the demand would change based on which President it was. And people should still be mature about it no matter. Bringing 16 family members is always crazy.
Couldn't agree more.
Instead preparing to to soak in what will be one of the greatest moments in Rutgers history we have the usual small minded provincial thinking from many students and a very select few dodo's on this board.
Thought everyone would want to see this story in the Philadelphia Inquirer
http://www.philly.com/philly/educat...ads__Keep_Camden_and_Newark_students_out.html
http://www.philly.com/philly/educat...ads__Keep_Camden_and_Newark_students_out.html
Then that would be on the idiots who would act up at such occasion.
The demand would be the same. Again, and slower this time....it's the Office (with a capital O), not the person.
Have to defend NIRH a little bit here. Yes, in a sane world the demand would be the same, but in the world in which we live, there would probably be somewat less demand for tickets to see, say, President Romney. But I don't see how that proves anything that NIRH is trying to say. So I guess I haven't defended him much!
Well I guess you hit your head again this winter (lol).
I still say it's about the Office, not the person.
But by the looks our your response you have outed yourself.
Looks like I hit a nerve. You really got shat on from plenty of people in this thread so it's understandable.
Whoever started the petition mentioned in the Philly.com article should not receive a diploma due to their simple ability to not do math. 3,500 grads from the two other campuses does not equal a fourth ticket for everyone.
Excuse me I believe I proved that you made things up in this thread. Take a scroll back up and refresh your memory.
Also for someone who has accused me of being a stalker you're awfully interested in what I do for a living. It's pretty creepy you should stop.
Oh the irony.
Your belief about when you "prove" things is on the same level of the commencement being for all campuses...pure fantasy that comes true in your world because you repeat it.
Also the fact that you respond like 10 minutes after I post is all the proof of being an unemployed stalker anyone needs.
Please get help. Instead of responding in 5 minutes "wah wah I was wrong about the commencement but so right about all the other things I pulled from my behind you're whaked boo hoo", please log onto the state unemployment website. The government is not meant to subsidize stalking.
Ummm if you actually read my posts you would have seen that I admitted I was incorrect on that one. Doesn't change the facts that:
- In previous years this was a University wide commencement celebration
- In previous years Camden and Newark students attended and never once did I hear a complaint from anyone
- Not letting Camden/Newark students attend would free up 1/4th a guest ticket for all New Brunswick graduates. Yes that's right 1/4th a ticket.
- Your idea that Rutgers should sell the 3,000 tickets for priority points has to be one of the dumbest things I've read from you, and you've said plenty of dumb things.
Again, your obsession with what I do for a living is creepy - please stop.
I have yet to see a response to any of the 3 questions I asked earlier in this thread. So until you answer one of those I will no longer communicate with you in this thread because it's turning into a giant waste of my life.
Let me do the moderator's job again: guys, stop. You're both valuable contributors and you do yourselves no credit by engaging in a pissing match.
Good because I have no intention on answering made up nonsense and look forward to you using your time productively for a change.
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