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OT- Students only allowed 3 guests to their graduation. However...

I wish they would set up a 30 foot tv outside the stadium (similar to Cowboys Stadium) so the overflow can watch from the parking lots. They should have this for football games too since we are selling out more games then 10 years ago.
 
Graduations are waste of time.

Went to mine because my parents wanted it. I didn't bother for my MBA. Get an education and move on.

If my kids don't want to walk, I won't care. Knowledge folks. Not a pat on the back.

Now get off my lawn.
 
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This made the news here in Delaware lol... People threatening not to give to the school after graduation. RU certainly seems to have more than its fair share of morons.
They have a nice "built in" excuse to not give........ like most RU grads.....
 
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obummer... hahahahahahahahaha .. wonder how many grads WON'T attend
 
They are not morons, you express your displeasure through your wallet, thats the only thing that works. I have a client that withheld a $1m gift to Georgetown over a similar issue and the priests still call him years later to kiss his ass. They basically had the money spent.
Whats the normal ticket allocation in previous yrs? Anyone expecting to bring 16 family members to an RU graduation is in my opinion a moron.
 
Whats the normal ticket allocation in previous yrs? Anyone expecting to bring 16 family members to an RU graduation is in my opinion a moron.
One would have to be a moron to think a moron could graduate high school, let alone be accepted and eventually graduate college. I'm just saying. [winking]
 
Voorhees was limited but since they moved it to the stadium it was never limited and never needed to.

Not entirely accurate. Voorhees was unlimited at least for a few years (I can say for certain in 2005) if the ceremony actually took place outside. Don't forget, people could stand behind the chairs and watch from the hill if they wanted to. The limit was if there was inclement weather, there was a ticket limit. I actually still have my invites from graduation and the (unused) inclement weather tickets on my bookshelf so I verified.

I wish they would set up a 30 foot tv outside the stadium (similar to Cowboys Stadium) so the overflow can watch from the parking lots. They should have this for football games too since we are selling out more games then 10 years ago.

They are planning on doing that around the campuses for overflow crowds to watch.
 
Whats the normal ticket allocation in previous yrs? Anyone expecting to bring 16 family members to an RU graduation is in my opinion a moron.
Truthfully it was unlimited. At the 2012 ceremony a little more than half of the stadium was filled so there was no concern about tickets, you walked up and walked in. Parking passes was the issue.
Last year it was a lot more crowded but the upper levels were not that crowded and as you can see in the photo on page one of this thread there were lots of empty seats between people.
 
Not entirely accurate. Voorhees was unlimited at least for a few years (I can say for certain in 2005) if the ceremony actually took place outside. Don't forget, people could stand behind the chairs and watch from the hill if they wanted to. The limit was if there was inclement weather, there was a ticket limit. I actually still have my invites from graduation and the (unused) inclement weather tickets on my bookshelf so I verified.



They are planning on doing that around the campuses for overflow crowds to watch.
I stand corrected. I remember the tickets but forgot about that they were for inclement weather.
 
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so i'm automatically supposed to like a guy just because he is potus?... i have more respect for putin

More respect for Putin, well played Sir !

I got so tired of graduations that I eventually stopped going to school.
 
Boohoo so the students in New Brunswick get one less guest ticket.

Actually they're not. There are only about 3000 graduates from Newark and Camden. So that is only 3000 tickets used for them. Not enough to give an extra ticket to each of 12,000 New Brunswick graduates.

I guess that Rutgers could give those extra 3000 tickets to some faculty, staff, or donors, instead of Newark/Camden grads. But there isn't enough extra tickets to give them to New Brunswick grads.
 
I actually got a fund raising letter yesterday. I just wrote "Ask Obama for my annual contribution" and sent it back. Then I realized I didnt give last year for the Condelezza Rice issue. They need to time there fund raising letters better.
It's nice that the school gives cheap bastards like you a convenient excuse, but next year just toss the envelope instead of costing the university that I financially support an extra 45 cents in fees from the post office.
 
One would have to be a moron to think a moron could graduate high school, let alone be accepted and eventually graduate college. I'm just saying. [winking]
Sure about that? I used just a little bit of hyperbole with the word moron.
 
Sure about that? I used just a little bit of hyperbole with the word moron.
Just having a little fun w/you.

And no, I'm not sure of it. At one time, "moron" was used to indicate people with an IQ below 70 (imbecile would be below 50). Not sure if a person with an IQ below 70 could graduate HS although I am pretty sure that person would not get into RU.

But the term has taken on the much more vague meaning of "less intelligent" or "mildly disabled" which could mean just about anything at all.
 
It's nice that the school gives cheap bastards like you a convenient excuse, but next year just toss the envelope instead of costing the university that I financially support an extra 45 cents in fees from the post office.

He is a BC alum.

And it's not like Condi spoke at BC to huge protests...oh wait

Not to mention if he was as rigid a right wing blowhard as he makes out, he'd best not donate to a Jesuit school. I'm sure Liberty University can use some extra cash to host students for the next mandatory-attendance speech from a Canadian Presidential candidate.
 
Yea because last time I checked New Brunswick students and faculty NEVER complain.

Tons of New Brunswick students normally don't show to commencement. Also Newark and Camden students are always invited to the ceremony and can bring guests and some do attend believe it or not. Just because Obama is in town doesn't mean we need to change the norm so students can bring 3 guests instead on 4.

I see you're back on your high horse again.

Also for someone who is such an ardent supporter of all things and people being equal you should support this decision.

Camden and Newark are not equal, never were, never will be. Their alumni and political backers can complain all they want. It is nice of you to echo their shrillness. NB alums don't complain about the ridiculous privileges accorded to the N and C students and alumni that other major research schools not give satellite schools. If the speaker was a Republican this would never happen and I say that as a hardcore liberal. Sometimes lines have to be drawn and Sweeney and Norcross don't get their way and the sun still comes out tomorrow.
 
When will you come to the simple conclusion that Rutgers is not, nor has it ever been, run like any other state university system?

You might as well run headlong into an oncoming train. It will hurt less than trying to make something so, that clearly isn't...

If the next governor is not Sweeney and is someone outside of the South Jersey or Newark establishment, someone who is willing to stand up those groups...things will begin to change. Prizing New Brunswick, like every main campus is prized in the other 49 states, would behoove basically anyone who isn't afraid of being cut down by Norcross or his Newark equivalent. If it's Fulop or the former ambassador whose name I forget or a Republican who puts a mountain of daylight between him or herself and Christie, they may actually realize having a normally functioning B1G university works better than provincialism.
 
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Camden and Newark are not equal, never were, never will be. Their alumni and political backers can complain all they want. It is nice of you to echo their shrillness. NB alums don't complain about the ridiculous privileges accorded to the N and C students and alumni that other major research schools not give satellite schools. If the speaker was a Republican this would never happen and I say that as a hardcore liberal. Sometimes lines have to be drawn and Sweeney and Norcross don't get their way and the sun still comes out tomorrow.

That is because in the actual running of the University, they aren't satellite schools.

You sound like a dope on this issue.

I'd be pretty certain there are no cross registration privileges between Michigan and Central Michigan. I'd be fairly certain that they are no crossover faculty appointments.

You should give up this issue, it's silly
 
If the next governor is not Sweeney and is someone outside of the South Jersey or Newark establishment, someone who is willing to stand up those groups...things will begin to change. Prizing New Brunswick, like every main campus is prized in the other 49 states, would behoove basically anyone who isn't afraid of being cut down by Norcross or his Newark equivalent. If it's Fulop or the former ambassador whose name I forget or a Republican who puts a mountain of daylight between him or herself and Christie, they may actually realize having a normally functioning B1G university works better than provincialism.

You're lost

Do you think the University should give up cross registration privileges? Or stop joint faculty appointments? Or disband the business school?
 
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That is because in the actual running of the University, they aren't satellite schools.

You sound like a dope on this issue.

I'd be pretty certain there are no cross registration privileges between Michigan and Central Michigan. I'd be fairly certain that they are no crossover faculty appointments.

You should give up this issue, it's silly

The comparison would be Michigan-Ann Arbor and Michigan-Dearborn or Flint, which sounds funny to say because no one would say "Michigan-Ann Arbor"- it's assumed. Unlike with RU in way too many cases.

I don't know what their cross registration rules are or how they appoint faculty. What I do know is that the state of Michigan, like 48 other states, does not make efforts to pretend that Ann Arbor = Flint. It's PC baloney, and it doesn't help anyone.

Also plenty of schools have business, among other, schools operating in many locations. RU has business classes all over NJ.

The difference is in instances like this. Having crossover faculty appointments is not justification for Newark students to get passes to a celebration of 250 years in New Brunswick, or that the website and other public literature strains to act as if there is no difference between the campuses. It's all very political. When you read about this issue, no one says "what of the cross registration?!?" They say "what of chalk, me me me they should pay me to come here PC rabble rabble money down the turnpike!!!!" Sad but that is the reality. RU should not have to deal with that IMO. People are entitled to think differently but I have not seen any convincing evidence that NB is benefiting and that is concern 1-100 as far as I see it.
 
Camden and Newark are not equal, never were, never will be. Their alumni and political backers can complain all they want. It is nice of you to echo their shrillness. NB alums don't complain about the ridiculous privileges accorded to the N and C students and alumni that other major research schools not give satellite schools. If the speaker was a Republican this would never happen and I say that as a hardcore liberal. Sometimes lines have to be drawn and Sweeney and Norcross don't get their way and the sun still comes out tomorrow.

The decision to let Camden and Newark students attend have nothing to do with Sweeney and Norcross. This is a UNIVERSTY WIDE commencement celebration that was created for all campuses whether you like it or not. Camden and Newark students and guests have attended in the past - this is nothing new.

I repeat, this is a UNIVERSITY WIDE commencement celebration.

You' come out of this sounding like a big baby, just like the Newark professors you call out for complaining about lack of chalk.

If this wasn't Obama speaking you also wouldn't have the dopes in New Brunswick complaining they can't bring their entourage of family because there would be plenty of space at commencement and a majority would be skipping out as per usual.
 
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If the next governor is not Sweeney and is someone outside of the South Jersey or Newark establishment, someone who is willing to stand up those groups...things will begin to change. Prizing New Brunswick, like every main campus is prized in the other 49 states, would behoove basically anyone who isn't afraid of being cut down by Norcross or his Newark equivalent. If it's Fulop or the former ambassador whose name I forget or a Republican who puts a mountain of daylight between him or herself and Christie, they may actually realize having a normally functioning B1G university works better than provincialism.

NEWSFLASH - Rutgers did stand up to those groups by telling them to F off when Sweeney and Norcross tried stealing the assets of Rutgers Camden away and give them to Rowan.

You should remember this pretty vividly because you were against standing up to those buffoons and were all for giving in to them.
 
Yea because last time I checked New Brunswick students and faculty NEVER complain.

Tons of New Brunswick students normally don't show to commencement.

Somehow I HIGHLY doubt it's "tons" that don't show up. A few hundred? MAYBE. I remember how many of my friends said "I'm not walking..." then, sure enough, walked.
 
Somehow I HIGHLY doubt it's "tons" that don't show up. A few hundred? MAYBE. I remember how many of my friends said "I'm not walking..." then, sure enough, walked.

I should specify - *Attend the celebration at the stadium.

It's way more than a few hundred. On a normal graduation it's in the thousands that would skip this event at the stadium. I graduated in 2011 and knew of good amount of people that did not go to this event. It's a logistical issue in itself to get from one campus to another on graduation day and most people would rather go to their individual commencement than this large event.

People are forgetting this is a university wide commencement celebration. Each respective school holds their own individual graduation ceremonies (Business, Engineering, Pharma, SAS) during the day where they get their degrees and then there is one large celebration at the stadium that everyone is invited to.

It's only because Obama is speaking that everyone and their Mom wants to go.
 
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The comparison would be Michigan-Ann Arbor and Michigan-Dearborn or Flint, which sounds funny to say because no one would say "Michigan-Ann Arbor"- it's assumed. Unlike with RU in way too many cases.

I don't know what their cross registration rules are or how they appoint faculty. What I do know is that the state of Michigan, like 48 other states, does not make efforts to pretend that Ann Arbor = Flint. It's PC baloney, and it doesn't help anyone.

Also plenty of schools have business, among other, schools operating in many locations. RU has business classes all over NJ.

The difference is in instances like this. Having crossover faculty appointments is not justification for Newark students to get passes to a celebration of 250 years in New Brunswick, or that the website and other public literature strains to act as if there is no difference between the campuses. It's all very political. When you read about this issue, no one says "what of the cross registration?!?" They say "what of chalk, me me me they should pay me to come here PC rabble rabble money down the turnpike!!!!" Sad but that is the reality. RU should not have to deal with that IMO. People are entitled to think differently but I have not seen any convincing evidence that NB is benefiting and that is concern 1-100 as far as I see it.

ONCE AGAIN...the place this is an issue is inside the feeble minded folks who's only lasting connection to the university is a football program.

The joint registration and faculty sharing are a foundational aspect of a graduate education in most disciplines at Rutgers.

Sure, lets give that up so that we can win an argument that is an argument nowhere else but here...
 
I repeat, this is a UNIVERSITY WIDE commencement celebration.

Actually, I don't think this is a university-wide commencement. This is a commencement for Rutgers - New Brunswick and Rutgers - Biomedical and Health Sciences. Rutgers - Newark and Rutgers - Camden have their own commencements. Nonetheless, I don't see anything wrong with inviting students from Newark and Camden to attend the ceremony in New Brunswick, especially since (as I mentioned earlier in this thread) there will only be about 3000 tickets provided to them, too few to allocate another ticket to the 12,000 New Brunswick & Health graduates.



From http://commencement.rutgers.edu/ceremonies/rutgers-university-commencement :

Be sure to enjoy the festivities with your family, friends, and fellow students from Rutgers University–New Brunswick and Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences.

Ceremonies in Newark and Camden

Students graduating from the schools affiliated with Rutgers University–Newark and Rutgers University–Camden will celebrate Commencement on their respective campuses. For more information, visit:


 
I should specify - *Attend the celebration at the stadium.

It's way more than a few hundred. On a normal graduation it's in the thousands that would skip this event at the stadium. .

"thousands"?

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Actually, I don't think this is a university-wide commencement. This is a commencement for Rutgers - New Brunswick and Rutgers - Biomedical and Health Sciences. Rutgers - Newark and Rutgers - Camden have their own commencements. Nonetheless, I don't see anything wrong with inviting students from Newark and Camden to attend the ceremony in New Brunswick, especially since (as I mentioned earlier in this thread) there will only be about 3000 tickets provided to them, too few to allocate another ticket to the 12,000 New Brunswick & Health graduates.



From http://commencement.rutgers.edu/ceremonies/rutgers-university-commencement :

Be sure to enjoy the festivities with your family, friends, and fellow students from Rutgers University–New Brunswick and Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences.

Ceremonies in Newark and Camden

Students graduating from the schools affiliated with Rutgers University–Newark and Rutgers University–Camden will celebrate Commencement on their respective campuses. For more information, visit:



Okay you are correct but every year there are students from Camden and Newark who attend this. When I attended in 2011 these students were acknowledged. Where was all the complaining then? That's right nobody gave a shat when these kids were taking up seats when Bill Nye or Tom Kean spoke.

I agree though with in that there's no harm in inviting these students.

I think it's comical that NotInRHouse always gets so worked up about these campuses as if it's degrading his New Brunswick degree.
 
I agree though with in that there's no harm in inviting these students.

Completely agree, especially since there are only about 3000 of these students. It is a nice gesture.


By the way, do Newark and Camden students sit on the field in cap and gown, or are they in the stands. If they are on the field, then they really don't take away from anyone. Seats on the field are only used by graduates. It is not like someone's grandmother would take the seat on the field if a Newark grad wasn't using it.
 
Completely agree, especially since there are only about 3000 of these students. It is a nice gesture.


By the way, do Newark and Camden students sit on the field in cap and gown, or are they in the stands. If they are on the field, then they really don't take away from anyone. Seats on the field are only used by graduates. It is not like someone's grandmother would take the seat on the field if a Newark grad wasn't using it.

I'm pretty sure they were allowed on the field back in 2011. Not sure if the policy has changed since then. There wasn't a huge turnout from those campuses but there were students that came.
 
ONCE AGAIN...the place this is an issue is inside the feeble minded folks who's only lasting connection to the university is a football program.

The joint registration and faculty sharing are a foundational aspect of a graduate education in most disciplines at Rutgers.

Sure, lets give that up so that we can win an argument that is an argument nowhere else but here...

That is not what I said. They can share registration and professors until they are blue in the face. That would not change if they limited NB graduation to NB, would it?

This actually has little to do with football- if anything that is their argument, that somehow football is siphoning funds from chalk. It is about why so often the school strives in situations like these to favor campuses that are not the main campus. I just wonder why that has to be done and think it should stop. I have never seen anyone on this board or anywhere else say stop cross registration or sharing faculty.
 
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