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[NotInRHouse]

The decision to let Camden and Newark students attend have nothing to do with Sweeney and Norcross. This is a UNIVERSTY WIDE commencement celebration that was created for all campuses whether you like it or not. Camden and Newark students and guests have attended in the past - this is nothing new.

I repeat, this is a UNIVERSITY WIDE commencement celebration.

You' come out of this sounding like a big baby, just like the Newark professors you call out for complaining about lack of chalk.

If this wasn't Obama speaking you also wouldn't have the dopes in New Brunswick complaining they can't bring their entourage of family because there would be plenty of space at commencement and a majority would be skipping out as per usual.

Much like everything you repeat, repeating it makes it no less false. This is a NB commencement so whether they came before does not matter, the school can change the rules. There was no eternal invite to the other campuses. Between being wrong and stalking me and defending Flood and Camden things must get quite exhausting and confusing but no need to repeat lies, we heard them the first time.

 

[S_Janowski]

Much like everything you repeat, repeating it makes it no less false. This is a NB commencement so whether they came before does not matter, the school can change the rules. There was no eternal invite to the other campuses. Between being wrong and stalking me and defending Flood and Camden things must get quite exhausting and confusing but no need to repeat lies, we heard them the first time.

Lol you're a total boob.

Don't flatter yourself I'm not stalking you.

You make the most pathetic arguments, ramble on and on, and make up bs constantly to fit you're warped little mind.

You realize nobody ever agrees with you?

Wtf does Flood have to do with anything I've posted here in this thread and when is the last time I defended him?

This should be interesting to see what you come up with.

 

[1devotedfan]

Everyone forgets to factor in faculty attending the ceremony. It may not be many thousands, but it is a substantial number.

 

[MidwestKnights]

If the next governor is not Sweeney and is someone outside of the South Jersey or Newark establishment, someone who is willing to stand up those groups...things will begin to change. Prizing New Brunswick, like every main campus is prized in the other 49 states, would behoove basically anyone who isn't afraid of being cut down by Norcross or his Newark equivalent. If it's Fulop or the former ambassador whose name I forget or a Republican who puts a mountain of daylight between him or herself and Christie, they may actually realize having a normally functioning B1G university works better than provincialism.

Phil Murphy. And it seems like Both the old Florio and Kean crowds are coalescing around him. Interesting times in NJ.

 

[KingHigh]

Besides mom and dad, no one wants to go to your graduation.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I hope the stadium is configured so that there could be a photo op of POTUS standing in front of "THE BIRTHPLACE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL", wall....but I don't expect that at all.

Can we paint it on the sideline wall??

I see umbrellas in the stadium.. oh noes!

 

[ruhudsonfan]

That is not what I said. They can share registration and professors until they are blue in the face. That would not change if they limited NB graduation to NB, would it?

This actually has little to do with football- if anything that is their argument, that somehow football is siphoning funds from chalk. It is about why so often the school strives in situations like these to favor campuses that are not the main campus. I just wonder why that has to be done and think it should stop. I have never seen anyone on this board or anywhere else say stop cross registration or sharing faculty.

It's 3,000 tickets

Demonstrate for the class how 3,000 tickets get distributed to 12,000 NB graduates.

And you can't even follow your own arguments they are so convoluted.

You prop up silly arguments about UM and Flint and Dearborn as examples of how Rutgers should act. The relationship between those schools and the mother ship, always has been and always will be, different than RU.

Being the sole voice in the wilderness shouting out that it should change, and we should mirror "the other 49 states," when you really have no idea what the other 49 states actually do, is silly. Standing alone on this issue doesn't make you some visionary. It makes you look like a petulant child.

Graduates of these campuses have been invited to commencement at the stadium for years. This year, they should be excluded? Based on what, exactly?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Lol you're a total boob.

Don't flatter yourself I'm not stalking you.

You make the most pathetic arguments, ramble on and on, and make up bs constantly to fit you're warped little mind.

You realize nobody ever agrees with you?

Wtf does Flood have to do with anything I've posted here in this thread and when is the last time I defended him?

This should be interesting to see what you come up with.

LOL you just made up about the university wide commencement. It's too easy. It's just sad.

 

[S_Janowski]

LOL you just made up about the university wide commencement. It's too easy. It's just sad.

Ok I was wrong - they don't technically advertise is as a university wide commencement but since they day they started it at the stadium Camden and Newark students were invited and attended.

So just because Obama is coming to town they should stop this? Good thing you're not in charge of things. You realize you're one of the few who cares about this and your constant whining, rambling, run on posts related to Flood, Pernetti, Camden and Newark make you sound like a dope.


Also I'm still waiting on your response:

1) When did I ever mention Flood?
2) What does he have to do with this conversation?
3) When was the last time I defended that guy?

 

[NotInRHouse]

It's 3,000 tickets

Demonstrate for the class how 3,000 tickets get distributed to 12,000 NB graduates.

And you can't even follow your own arguments they are so convoluted.

You prop up silly arguments about UM and Flint and Dearborn as examples of how Rutgers should act. The relationship between those schools and the mother ship, always has been and always will be, different than RU.

Being the sole voice in the wilderness shouting out that it should change, and we should mirror "the other 49 states," when you really have no idea what the other 49 states actually do, is silly. Standing alone on this issue doesn't make you some visionary. It makes you look like a petulant child.

Graduates of these campuses have been invited to commencement at the stadium for years. This year, they should be excluded? Based on what, exactly?

I think you're missing the point. I also don't think it's relevant how things were. It used to be that we were in the BE, had several separate colleges, and that UMDNJ was its own entity...it all changed. It's not like things are static. I don't think that anything I proposed in this thread is radical.

The school could do a lot with 3000 tickets. It could give them to students with the highest honors, it could auction them in various forms, considering we never have enough money for anything. They could sell them for priority points. There's a lot they could do. It doesn't have to go directly to the 12,000.

Generally anyone from the street could have shown up for decades. So I would say this in fact different for everyone, including the NB graduates and their families. With good reason. So yeah I would rather use the opportunity to reward NB students or people associated with NB in some way.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Ok I was wrong - they don't technically advertise is as a university wide commencement but since they day they started it at the stadium Camden and Newark students were invited and attended.

So just because Obama is coming to town they should stop this? Good thing you're not in charge of things. You realize you're one of the few who cares about this and your constant whining, rambling, run on posts related to Flood, Pernetti, Camden and Newark make you sound like a dope.


Also I'm still waiting on your response:

1) When did I ever mention Flood?
2) What does he have to do with this conversation?
3) When was the last time I defended that guy?

No it has to do with your stalking. It is more if anyone mentions him negatively in any thread that you jump in with your "defenses." You quoted me in the thread about Ash worrying about the players going home and committing crimes because I said we had to worry about that for many summers. Which, unfortunately, was obviously extremely true. Why you felt the need to relitigate this when the University and the courts and the staff and pretty much the whole fanbase have reached the same conclusion is beyond me. Again, I can only draw the conclusion that you're a stalker. Maybe you like making really garbage arguments. Maybe it's both. It's a free country. It's just weird. I didn't even mention Pernetti but again this is something that has long ago been decided where again everyone pretty much knows he hired two disasters in the two major sports. To be fair you have some allies in relitigating that one but this is again ridiculous.

Look I don't care really that you make things up or cling to the past. I just don't want to be part of it. It's creepy and I have better things to do.

 

[Mr_Twister]

They can thin the herd by charging for tickets. Doesn't the Athletics Dept rely on something called "dynamic pricing" for single game football tickets? Think of the graduation as Ohio State or Texas or Notre Dinero visiting Rutgers Stadium for football. Or think of it as an alumni donation in advance. Do you think Bruce Springsteen and Jon Bon Jovi are guests, even though their kids went elsewhere to college?

 

[S_Janowski]

No it has to do with your stalking. It is more if anyone mentions him negatively in any thread that you jump in with your "defenses." You quoted me in the thread about Ash worrying about the players going home and committing crimes because I said we had to worry about that for many summers. Which, unfortunately, was obviously extremely true. Why you felt the need to relitigate this when the University and the courts and the staff and pretty much the whole fanbase have reached the same conclusion is beyond me. Again, I can only draw the conclusion that you're a stalker. Maybe you like making really garbage arguments. Maybe it's both. It's a free country. It's just weird. I didn't even mention Pernetti but again this is something that has long ago been decided where again everyone pretty much knows he hired two disasters in the two major sports. To be fair you have some allies in relitigating that one but this is again ridiculous.

Look I don't care really that you make things up or cling to the past. I just don't want to be part of it. It's creepy and I have better things to do.

So you can't answer a single one of those questions? But I'm the one that makes things up?

Hahahhahahahahahah.

 

[Upstream]

The school could do a lot with 3000 tickets. It could give them to students with the highest honors, it could auction them in various forms, considering we never have enough money for anything. They could sell them for priority points. There's a lot they could do. It doesn't have to go directly to the 12,000.

If the seats for the Newark and Camden grads are on the field, there is actually nothing else they could do with the tickets. The 12,000 grads from NB/Health already have seats. They aren't going to have guests sit on the field. So the seats either get used for grads from Camden/Newark, or they don't get used at all.

If the seats are in the stands, you are correct, Rutgers could have chosen to do something else with the tickets. Whatever they chose, someone will say the should have chosen something else instead. The choice they made was to give them to Newark/Camden grads. It is a choice that is as valid as any other potential choice.

 

[cliffbuck]

I'd rather hear Bill Nye

 

[S_Janowski]

No it has to do with your stalking. It is more if anyone mentions him negatively in any thread that you jump in with your "defenses." You quoted me in the thread about Ash worrying about the players going home and committing crimes because I said we had to worry about that for many summers. Which, unfortunately, was obviously extremely true. Why you felt the need to relitigate this when the University and the courts and the staff and pretty much the whole fanbase have reached the same conclusion is beyond me. Again, I can only draw the conclusion that you're a stalker. Maybe you like making really garbage arguments. Maybe it's both. It's a free country. It's just weird. I didn't even mention Pernetti but again this is something that has long ago been decided where again everyone pretty much knows he hired two disasters in the two major sports. To be fair you have some allies in relitigating that one but this is again ridiculous.

Look I don't care really that you make things up or cling to the past. I just don't want to be part of it. It's creepy and I have better things to do.

Also just as more proof that you make $hit up what I quoted you on was the thread regarding Pernetti speaking to the football team the other day. This was the genius comment you had and my response:

This is just a move to quiet the incessant whining of those who worship the man that made "Lithuanian F*****", "meet me in Princeton in disguise" and losing to St. Peter's and Kent State on the RU faithful.

You're whacked.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Also just as more proof that you make $hit up what I quoted you on was the thread regarding Pernetti speaking to the football team the other day. This was the genius comment you had and my response:



You're whacked.

Yes I can't keep your stalking straight nor your defense of the the indefensible. Do you work or go to school or do something productive with your time?

 

[NotInRHouse]

If the seats for the Newark and Camden grads are on the field, there is actually nothing else they could do with the tickets. The 12,000 grads from NB/Health already have seats. They aren't going to have guests sit on the field. So the seats either get used for grads from Camden/Newark, or they don't get used at all.

If the seats are in the stands, you are correct, Rutgers could have chosen to do something else with the tickets. Whatever they chose, someone will say the should have chosen something else instead. The choice they made was to give them to Newark/Camden grads. It is a choice that is as valid as any other potential choice.

That's fine, I think it's an opportunity to monetize. Obviously they could have done a lot of things, I just don't think there was any obligation to give to non-NB students and understand why students were upset about that. Of course RU should not have to pay families hauling in 16 people.

 

[S_Janowski]

Yes I can't keep your stalking straight nor your defense of the the indefensible. Do you work or go to school or do something productive with your time?

You can't keep track of my stalking so you make up 100% lies?

I never quoted you in an Ash thread you boob.

Also I'm still waiting on an answer to my 3 questions earlier....I think a Camden or Newark grad would have been able to give me an answer by now....

 

[retired711]

Camden and Newark are not equal, never were, never will be. Their alumni and political backers can complain all they want. It is nice of you to echo their shrillness. NB alums don't complain about the ridiculous privileges accorded to the N and C students and alumni that other major research schools not give satellite schools. If the speaker was a Republican this would never happen and I say that as a hardcore liberal. Sometimes lines have to be drawn and Sweeney and Norcross don't get their way and the sun still comes out tomorrow.

What a nonsensical post. Sweeney and Norcross have nothing to do with it -- and anyway, how would their existence affect Newark? (Beside, Sweeney and Norcross have no liking for the Camden campus -- that's what the proposed merger was about. Remember?) Ever since RU went to this graduation format, Camden and Newark grads have been invited. This is one university and the faculty at all campuses have been judged by a central committee to meet the same standards. And, as pointed out by a poster above, there aren't enough Camden/Newark grads to affect the number of tickets NB grads get. So please stop your nonsense.

 

[S_Janowski]

What a nonsensical post. Sweeney and Norcross have nothing to do with it -- and anyway, how would their existence affect Newark? (Beside, Sweeney and Norcross have no liking for the Camden campus -- that's what the proposed merger was about. Remember?) Ever since RU went to this graduation format, Camden and Newark grads have been invited. This is one university and the faculty at all campuses have been judged by a central committee to meet the same standards. And, as pointed out by a poster above, there aren't enough Camden/Newark grads to affect the number of tickets NB grads get. So please stop your nonsense.

This guy seriously proposed selling the seats for football priority points.

That should tell you enough about his intelligence.

 

[bigbirdRU]

Rutgers students would find a way to whine if there were 10 tickets available per graduate.

Unless you have 1 sibling, 3 tickets is not enough for a reasonably sized family to attend. They have a legit gripe here. However not sure what else Rutgers could do- the stadium only fits so many. I've felt the Newark and Camden invitation has been silly before this year though- How many of those students prior to this year travel up to NB for commencement? NB students skip out on commencement half the time.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Unless you have 1 sibling, 3 tickets is not enough for a reasonably sized family to attend. They have a legit gripe here. However not sure what else Rutgers could do- the stadium only fits so many. I've felt the Newark and Camden invitation has been silly before this year though- How many of those students prior to this year travel up to NB for commencement? NB students skip out on commencement half the time.

The answer is obvious

We should expand the football stadium

 

[srru86]

The good news is if anybody missed the announcement there is an awful lot of press about the President coming to RU. So what if some of it is whiney.

USA Today
Obama's commencement at Rutgers causes frustration with limited tickets

 

[MOBFreehold]

Unfortunately at some point some individual or group of Graduates will stir the pot especially since it is an election year. Expect some Bernie Hilary and Donald shout outs. I'm sure fill in the blank "lives matter" also will be shouted out. Why because unfortunately this generation has been encouraged to expound their opinions and whine when something is said they don't like. Let's just hope they are adult enough to realize that whether they like him hate him or don't have an opinion they have the Sitting President of these Great United States giving their commencement speech. A once in a lifetime opportunity

 

[mildone]

The answer is obvious
We should expand the football stadium

I blame Flood for not having accomplished that already. We should hire him so we can re-fire him. [laughing]

 

[rube1859]

Unfortunately at some point some individual or group of Graduates will stir the pot especially since it is an election year. Expect some Bernie Hilary and Donald shout outs. I'm sure fill in the blank "lives matter" also will be shouted out. Why because unfortunately this generation has been encouraged to expound their opinions and whine when something is said they don't like. Let's just hope they are adult enough to realize that whether they like him hate him or don't have an opinion they have the Sitting President of these Great United States giving their commencement speech. A once in a lifetime opportunity

I work for Republicans and wholeheartedly agree with the last two sentences of this.

 

[NotInRHouse]

What a nonsensical post. Sweeney and Norcross have nothing to do with it -- and anyway, how would their existence affect Newark? (Beside, Sweeney and Norcross have no liking for the Camden campus -- that's what the proposed merger was about. Remember?) Ever since RU went to this graduation format, Camden and Newark grads have been invited. This is one university and the faculty at all campuses have been judged by a central committee to meet the same standards. And, as pointed out by a poster above, there aren't enough Camden/Newark grads to affect the number of tickets NB grads get. So please stop your nonsense.

It is definitely political. I am liberal, voted for Obama twice, would vote for him a third if I could, but I'm pretty sure if a Republican was speaking, no one worry about getting tickets to other campuses and other campuses would not be seeking them.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You can't keep track of my stalking so you make up 100% lies?

I never quoted you in an Ash thread you boob.

Also I'm still waiting on an answer to my 3 questions earlier....I think a Camden or Newark grad would have been able to give me an answer by now....

No I said Flood but I meant Pernetti. I can't keep track of the failures you defend.

I am thankful that you didn't answer the question about not working because that is now clear. That is unfortunate but the unemployment office I do believe likes to see proof of seeking work.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Unless you have 1 sibling, 3 tickets is not enough for a reasonably sized family to attend. They have a legit gripe here. However not sure what else Rutgers could do- the stadium only fits so many. I've felt the Newark and Camden invitation has been silly before this year though- How many of those students prior to this year travel up to NB for commencement? NB students skip out on commencement half the time.

What if you have 10 siblings? How do you "pick-and-choose" which ones get to attend?

 

[17Q66]

I hope the stadium is configured so that there could be a photo op of POTUS standing in front of "THE BIRTHPLACE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL", wall....but I don't expect that at all.

Can we paint it on the sideline wall??

 

[17Q66]

I was concerned that with our growth in academic facilities, fundraising, conference affiliation, and undergraduate applications, Rutgers had evolved past the point of petulant whining and embarrassing selfishness. I am very pleased to see this year's graduating class prove me wrong about that.

 

[RC1978]

LAtest email:

Dear Rutgers–New Brunswick and RBHS Graduating Students:


The ticketing website for the May 15 University Commencement at High Point Solutions Stadium is now in operation and is available to previously registered students at Rutgers University Commencement Tickets. When registering for your tickets, you will need to provide your RUID and the name, address, and e-mail address for up to three guests. Please act promptly, as the registration period for Commencement tickets will end on Wednesday, May 4 and 11:59 pm EST. If you do not register for tickets by this deadline, you will not have an opportunity to do so afterward. There will be no exceptions. See below for instructions about using the ticketing website.


All of your tickets—your guests’ tickets and your own field ticket—will be mailed to you along with your parking hangtag.


Please be reminded that you must wear your regalia, have your field ticket, and have your Rutgers ID with you to get onto the field for Commencement.


Your guests will receive barcoded, nontransferable tickets for reserved seating. All guests, no matter their age, must have a ticket and ID to enter the stadium. Young children must be accompanied by an adult that has ID. Please note that because of the heightened security, no bags will be allowed in the stadium.


Remember that additional viewing sites will be set up, including the Busch, Livingston, and College Avenue Student Centers for guests who do not have tickets to enter the stadium.


Special Note regarding SAS Convocation

The School of Arts and Sciences Convocation at the stadium will now begin at 3:00 pm. This change in the start time will allow any additional guests to enter the stadium for the SAS Convocation. This is an open ceremony; tickets are not required for guests coming in the afternoon to attend the SAS Convocation.


Please consult the University Commencement website, commencement.rutgers.edu, which will be updated regularly, for information about the event as the day draws closer.


Sincerely,


Kimberlee Pastva

Interim Secretary of the University


Using the website for Rutgers University Commencement Tickets

Once you click the link:

o Create an account so you can obtain tickets. (If you have used the site to purchase athletics tickets in the past, you can log in with your RUID and password.)

o Choose 1 Student Ticket and up to 3 Guest Tickets.

o If required, select ADA seating.

o Include Name, Address and E-mail for each guest. If guest does not have an e-mail, enter your e-mail address.

o Click “Add to Cart,” and then check out.

Ticket Registration Questions: 1-866-445-GoRU (4678) ext. 9 or tickets@scarletknights.com

 

[rube1859]

As a Rutgers College graduate (as well as a Rutgers School of Law-Camden graduate), I can see both sides of the argument. But I think it comes down to a few things.

A) Rutgers as a whole is celebrating 250 years. Banners are up on every campus and events are happening everywhere. limiting attendance to NB folks based simply on Newark and Camden joining the university later seems ridiculous. Even if they are separate campuses, they are part of out university. And comparisons to Cal are not equivalent because unlike most other state university systems, we are a tiny state with a large population.

B) The simple function of available seats. If you give more than 3 tickets to NB graduates, who decides who gets more and who doesn't? It's a lose lose situation. Half those NB Grads planning on attending planned on inviting five people to graduation. If you keep the first 6,000 to three guest tickets (18,000) and the other 6,000 at five guest tickets (30,000), you now don't even have enough room for the actual graduates. When President Obama spoke at Notre Dame in 2009, guess how many tickets students were limited to? Three. Why? Because the venue, the Joyce Center, could only hold that many folks total (Some folks got five but they had to be getting multiple degrees).

Really, allowing the Camden and Newark graduates the opportunity to attend WITHOUT their own guests, was the best way to optimally allow all university graduates to attend a momentous event and not pick and choose amount a subset of students. What would the students who didn't get a fourth ticket say to their neighbors who may have each gotten an extra ticket?

 

[S_Janowski]

No I said Flood but I meant Pernetti. I can't keep track of the failures you defend.

I am thankful that you didn't answer the question about not working because that is now clear. That is unfortunate but the unemployment office I do believe likes to see proof of seeking work.

I've never seen someone embarrass themselves so much in one thread.

You deserve a trophy, seriously.

 

[RC1978]

I know I am being a cry baby here but this will piss me off. I reserved Audi Club tickets way before POTUS was coming. I have two 90 year olds coming and I was just told by my Ticket person that the Audi Club is on "hold". I or she has no idea what that means but in my mind RU will screw us and give those seats to VIP's and politician's. I will be pissed.

 

[e5fdny]

These types of thread on the Free Board remind me what I like about NASCAR...

You guys are awesome.

 

[PaKnight]

Fun fact, I was born in the hospital elevator and my dad lobbied to name me Otis. Mom won....

Otis my man!!!

 

[retired711]

It is definitely political. I am liberal, voted for Obama twice, would vote for him a third if I could, but I'm pretty sure if a Republican was speaking, no one worry about getting tickets to other campuses and other campuses would not be seeking them.

So having been refuted, you change your argument. Not good form. Camden and Newark grads have been offered tickets ever since this graduation format started, regardless of who was speaking.

 

[vkj91]

It is definitely political. I am liberal, voted for Obama twice, would vote for him a third if I could, but I'm pretty sure if a Republican was speaking, no one worry about getting tickets to other campuses and other campuses would not be seeking them.

basically you are saying kids who go to crappy schools in Newark are only interested in seeing a liberal speak? Maybe if they were more open minded they could have ended up somewhere better.