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thats pretty good analysis. Its just real tough to have big movement. I think even a Big 10 championship would only get us to 5
A conference tourney run from an underdog can really help a team's seeding, but traditionally, I don't remember teams getting punished much for tourney losses.
I don't think our resume is getting enough credit.Ok bac....here is how I see it for RU now ...you tell me if you see it this way
Rutgers loses to Indiana first round ...10 seed
Rutgers loses to Michigan state in first round ..9/10 seed
Rutgers beats Indiana ....9 seed
Rutgers beats Michigan state ...8/9 seed
Rutgers beats either Illinois/Michigan in the quarterfinal ...7 seed ...remain at
Above seed if they lose
Rutgers wins semifinal game against Purdue or Wisconsin ...6 /7 seed border
Rutgers wins big ten tournament ...with win over Ohio state or Iowa (5 seed) or win over Michigan (4 seed)
I don't think our resume is getting enough credit.
Combined Q1/Q2 9-10. Zero Q3/Q4 losses. Best win #1 seed Illinois. Toughest conf in the country. Most other schools mentioned by many analysts around 8/9/10 in other conferences can't compare.
Really we should be very comparable to Wisconsin.
They are also combined Q1/Q2 9-10. Zero Q3/Q4 losses. Their best win? Us or Maryland? Expecting them to lose tomorrow vs Iowa.
Don't get why they're considered like a solid 6 and we could be a 10?
Exactly. If we had 2-3 more random OOC cupcake wins on our resume we would be looked at a lot differently. It makes no sense.I don't think our resume is getting enough credit.
Combined Q1/Q2 9-10. Zero Q3/Q4 losses. Best win #1 seed Illinois. Toughest conf in the country. Most other schools mentioned by many analysts around 8/9/10 in other conferences can't compare.
Really we should be very comparable to Wisconsin.
They are also combined Q1/Q2 9-10. Zero Q3/Q4 losses. Their best win? Us or Maryland? Expecting them to lose tomorrow vs Iowa.
Don't get why they're considered like a solid 6 and we could be a 10?
Bonnies look like they lock up a spot no matter what happens in A10 tourney
Illinois locks down that one seed IMO by knocking off Ohio State
Im not sure why bracketologists have been so high on them and so slow to drop them
Their resume is trash. Big deal they beat Uconn and Xavier but filled with losses to mediocrity from the Big East
I think they need to win the Big East tourney to go
St Johns though in the running now
Different world now but thinking back to our BE days:thats pretty good analysis. Its just real tough to have big movement. I think even a Big 10 championship would only get us to 5
Even with a loss to Marquette I'd still have Xavier above St. John's. That Oklahoma win helps a lot. And they didn't lose to Butler and DePaul.
Zags, UM, Baylor, and Illinois.Illinois locks down that one seed IMO by knocking off Ohio State
Different world now but thinking back to our BE days:
Syracuse 2006: going into the BET they were 7-9 BE, 19-11 overall, I know NET wasn't a thing then but they were ~3-9 Q1. They won 4 "Q1" games in the BET and got a 5 seed. RU's resume would be unequivocally better than this.
UConn 2011: going into the BET they were 9-9 BE, 21-9 overall, ~8-9 Q1. They won 4 "Q1" games in the BET and got a 3 seed.
You place too much emphasis on tournaments
Its not happening anyway so its pointless to discuss. Its in the if my aunt had balls type discussion
Rutgers / Kansas
18-10 / 21-9
Q1 7-8 / 8-9
Q2 6-2 / 3-0
Q3 3-0 / 4-0
Q4 2-0 / 5-0
Wins over Illinois x2, Iowa, Michigan / Win over Baylor
Don't get me wrong I give Kansas the edge there but not by much.
Remember things are played in a vacuum. Houston winning AAC tourney keeps them a 3. Arkansas has come on strong and may deserve a 3..what if they win SEC. Nova effected by injuries but can they hang onto a 3. FSU in line for a 3 for winning AAC reg season?
Michigan State needs to get one of the next two IMO, much like Rutgers before today.