https://www.gofundme.com/FireFlood

[bac2therac]

Put down the Lo-Bro and take a sip of your BCAAs.

The campaign is 60 days.

The appropriate comment from RU was "Kyle Flood is our head football coach. We have no further comment on any movements, grass roots or otherwise, to change that."

This way, they don't create a media firestorm...AGAIN.

The campaign has essentially grown by a 1/3 since their comment 3 hours ago. Including 2 of the 3 largest individual donations. As usual, they zig when they should zag.

firestorm? hmm where...besides this board

sure the story of the gofundme is all over the press now but RUs comment isn't creating a firestorm beyond this little world on the board and on the internet. In the end RU makes a change and Im wondering if all the people who pledged ending up donating to RUs next coachs salary

 

[rutgers4life11]

http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-u...on-profit-get-on-your-Certified-Charity-list-

For anyone wondering if RU was involved in becoming a Certified Charity with GoFundMe.com. Clearly the RU Fund set the charity up on the GoFundMe.com site.

Great research Piscataway. So RU fund HAD to go through a process to make it publicly available to all users. Uh oh.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

message by who, not sure what you are saying...just because RU doesn't accept it doesn't mean Flood is coming back. It means nothing

Let's say this get's to $15k going into Saturday. We get blown out. By this time Monday there is $25k in it--a mere 10 days in.

You don't think that sends a message?

Do you think if you called with a check for $25 large in your hand, someone in the AD office wouldn't take your call and voice your concerns?

THis is a win/win...until RU screwed it up.

He's gonna be fired regardless. The school could have kept a 5 figure donation to boot. Now, they've backed themselves into a PR corner by defending the indefensible. And managed to alienate alums...AGAIN

 

[Caliknight]

firestorm? hmm where...besides this board

sure the story of the gofundme is all over the press now but RUs comment isn't creating a firestorm beyond this little world on the board and on the internet. In the end RU makes a change and Im wondering if all the people who pledged ending up donating to RUs next coachs salary

If so, then the people who are donating won.

Oh, and what is a BCAA?

 

[Piscataway]

firestorm? hmm where...besides this board

sure the story of the gofundme is all over the press now but RUs comment isn't creating a firestorm beyond this little world on the board and on the internet. In the end RU makes a change and Im wondering if all the people who pledged ending up donating to RUs next coachs salary

Its been 2 days, Bac. why are you blowing this off?

 

[rutgersguy1]

The appropriate comment from RU was "Kyle Flood is our head football coach. We have no further comment on any movements, grass roots or otherwise, to change that."

I don't know if the "no comment" tact can be taken in this particular instance. The foundation's name, Tax ID etc.. are all on the page and they need to distance themselves otherwise it becomes an endorsement of the whole thing and the spirit of it and I don't think any admin would want to be tied to that kind of thing.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

firestorm? hmm where...besides this board

sure the story of the gofundme is all over the press now but RUs comment isn't creating a firestorm beyond this little world on the board and on the internet. In the end RU makes a change and Im wondering if all the people who pledged ending up donating to RUs next coachs salary

Sure it is. Because it was a non-story and largely a joke piece in the press before RU legitimized it. Now, the headlines read that RU will turn the donation down.

And that last part is both unfair, yet typical of your tendency to count other people's money. I know at least 3 people who have given to this who have written 5 figure checks this year alone. And they also offered up 5 figure checks when Julie moved on Flood the first time.

I

 

[ruhudsonfan]

If so, then the people who are donating won.

Oh, and what is a BCAA?

hahahaha

Branch Chain Amino Acids...it's bro food...right in Bac's wheelhouse...lol

 

[MADHAT1]

You're about 4 hours late with this post

Sorry, did a quick check missed it.

 

[KeithK7624]

What happens if I contribute to fund and Flood doesn't get canned? Do I get money back?

No money goes to Rutgers and is tax deductible

 

[bac2therac]

do you realize that since the school has already declared its not taking the money, people can donate any ridiculous amount they want knowing they don't have to pay it

 

[ruhudsonfan]

I don't know if the "no comment" tact can be taken in this particular instance. The foundation's name, Tax ID etc.. are all on the page and they need to distance themselves otherwise it becomes an endorsement of the whole thing and the spirit of it and I don't think any admin would want to be tied to that kind of thing.

Your post contradicts itself by the very nature of how crowd funding for non-profits works.

 

[RU5781]

do you realize that since the school has already declared its not taking the money, people can donate any ridiculous amount they want knowing they don't have to pay it

Until the school decides to take it.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

do you realize that since the school has already declared its not taking the money, people can donate any ridiculous amount they want knowing they don't have to pay it

Your CC is authorized and billed immediately.

Your money is in fact tied up. Considering Gofund Me hasn't taken it down yet, I'm not entirely sure the campaign will end before the 60 days is up or the goal is reached.

If a handful of people want to tie up 200-1,000 bucks for 2 months to have a laugh, I'd like to drink with them this weekend...

 

[rutgersguy1]

Your post contradicts itself by the very nature of how crowd funding for non-profits works.

What's contradictory. They don't want to be associated with a public calling for dismissal for one of it's coaches. What admin would want to be associated with that.

This isn't donate the RU Foundation for the B10 champs fund or some facility fund or some scholarship this is asking publicly with the RU Foundation's name to fire someone. What admin is going to endorse using their name in that fashion and the whole spirit of it.

 

[mildone]

He's gonna be fired regardless.

I'll bet you a pound of London Broil that, unless some off-field issue comes up, he'll be back for next season.

 

[KeithK7624]

do you realize that since the school has already declared its not taking the money, people can donate any ridiculous amount they want knowing they don't have to pay it

You do realize they can't possibly say no to a $25k check

 

[Piscataway]

Your CC is authorized and billed immediately.

Your money is in fact tied up. Considering Gofund Me hasn't taken it down yet, I'm not entirely sure the campaign will end before the 60 days is up or the goal is reached.

If a handful of people want to tie up 200-1,000 bucks for 2 months to have a laugh, I'd like to drink with them this weekend...

See you Sat!

 

[miketd1]

I'll bet you a pound of London Broil that, unless some off-field issue comes up, he'll be back for next season.

Joke's on both of you:

Flood IS London broil.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

I'll bet you a pound of London Broil that, unless some off-field issue comes up, he'll be back for next season.

Deal...

Dogs gotta eat too...

 

[mildone]

Im all for Flood getting fired and for the occasional Rutgers administration bash but I think Notinrhouse and some others are off the deep end here with their faux wadded panties.

what do you really think the school was going to say here...oh yes we love to take the money raised to fire Coach Flood. It does not work that way. Flood will not be fired until the end of the year. I have no problem with that. The school is going to support him until they decide they won't. Stomping up and down like children demanding it be done IMMEDIATELY and that they take the funds is a little childish and you all know I can be a child on these boards

Exactly.

 

[bac2therac]

You do realize they can't possibly say no to a $25k check

yes they can...if people really want Flood gone and the best available candidate out there they will donate anyway.

 

[OTBOTOR]

I don't understand the RU Foundation's argument. The starter of this campaign did not present himself to be a representative of the Foundation. The starter of this campaign committed no fraud. The RU Foundation is a charity registered on gofundme that any user can select as the desired recipient of his/her fundraising. I could understand the RU Foundation saying they refuse to accept the donations on principle, or to avoid controversy, but they cannot claim this was any sort of fraud or misdoing.

 

[miketd1]

i got absolutely nothing done at work today. Will try to go 1-0 tomorrow.

 

[KingHigh]

Rutgers should sue the Op to prevent him from donating money to their foundation. I would love to see them spend $25,000 on that haha

 

[Caliknight]

yes they can...if people really want Flood gone and the best available candidate out there they will donate anyway.

If they refuse money to do exactly what they are going to do anyway, you don't think that makes them look bad?

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Exactly.

Maybe neither of you have read every post, considering the thread is 17 pages, but no one has either a) demanded immediate "fire him RIGHT. NOW" change or have they b) suggested the Foundation should take the funds immediately.

The campaign was set up to last 60 days.

The goal of using his buyout was also symbolic.

This is nothing more than a grassroots effort to show disgust, while putting a dollar amount to it. The campagn is built around the idea that people complain and then don't give to bring about change. People have different levels of means and this gives them the opportunity to be rolled into a larger collective to be taken seriously.

It is fundamentally no different than all the the calls we hear about "my group is going to drop tickets or parking passes next year."

Furthermore, it is markedly BETTER than those comments because the university keeps the money whether Flood is fired or not.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

If they refuse money to do exactly what they are going to do anyway, you don't think that makes them look bad?

Exactly. And inept.

 

[RUbanks]

Your CC is authorized and billed immediately.

Your money is in fact tied up. Considering Gofund Me hasn't taken it down yet, I'm not entirely sure the campaign will end before the 60 days is up or the goal is reached.

If a handful of people want to tie up 200-1,000 bucks for 2 months to have a laugh, I'd like to drink with them this weekend...

Okay, I'll be at Stuff Yer Face pre-game.

 

[mildone]

I have ZERO confidence in Flood's recruiting ability against the big boys in the B1G or his coaching ability.......getting rid of him should be a behind the scenes effort.

This fund just leads to more negative press against Rutgers football....that's not good for recruiting.

Yep. Already started w/the media making fun of RU fans over the gofundme thing.

Basically, the gofundme nonsense is helping Flood's successor make his case for a much higher buyout clause. Each dollar spent on the gofundme site will cost the university many more dollars on the contract for a new coach. Since RU is certainly going to cap spending for any replacement coach, what the gofundme site is doing is really accomplishing is lowering the amount available for any new coach thereby ensuring that we get another crappy coach to replace the one we already have w/a buyout that will be prohibitive in spending even more when the Big Ten money really starts to roll in.

 

[rutgersguy1]

If they refuse money to do exactly what they are going to do anyway, you don't think that makes them look bad?

No and the difference is in the method and spirit in which that money is gotten.

 

[theRU]

The campaign was set up to last 60 days.

The goal of using his buyout was also symbolic.
.

Campaign does not have a deadline. It can go on all year or until he is gone.

 

[RU205]

Who gave the $10 donation as Kyles Notepad? I was going to have one of my donations as his note pad. Now I have to think of something else.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Yep. Already started w/the media making fun of RU fans over the gofundme thing.

Basically, the gofundme nonsense is helping Flood's successor make his case for a much higher buyout clause. Each dollar spent on the gofundme site will cost the university many more dollars on the contract for a new coach. Since RU is certainly going to cap spending for any replacement coach, what the gofundme site is doing is really accomplishing is lowering the amount available for any new coach thereby ensuring that we get another crappy coach to replace the one we already have w/a buyout that will be prohibitive in spending even more when the Big Ten money really starts to roll in.

I've come to really enjoy your posts and like commenting back and forth to each other...

but if you think Al Golden's agent is going to reference a GoFundMe campaign at the negotiating table, you're snorting your way out of Tony Montana's vault

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Campaign does not have a deadline. It can go on all year or until he is gone.

My mistake. I thought you said 60 days was the limit earlier in the thread.

 

[mildone]

Maybe neither of you have read every post, considering the thread is 17 pages, but no one has either a) demanded immediate "fire him RIGHT. NOW" change or have they b) suggested the Foundation should take the funds immediately.

The campaign was set up to last 60 days.

The goal of using his buyout was also symbolic.

This is nothing more than a grassroots effort to show disgust, while putting a dollar amount to it. The campagn is built around the idea that people complain and then don't give to bring about change. People have different levels of means and this gives them the opportunity to be rolled into a larger collective to be taken seriously.

It is fundamentally no different than all the the calls we hear about "my group is going to drop tickets or parking passes next year."

Furthermore, it is markedly BETTER than those comments because the university keeps the money whether Flood is fired or not.

I'm all for grassroots movements in theory. But in practice, this one is ill-advised. If I'm the school, I'd refuse to touch that money (which seems to be what they have stated they are doing).

 

[koleszar]

Yep. Already started w/the media making fun of RU fans over the gofundme thing.

Basically, the gofundme nonsense is helping Flood's successor make his case for a much higher buyout clause. Each dollar spent on the gofundme site will cost the university many more dollars on the contract for a new coach. Since RU is certainly going to cap spending for any replacement coach, what the gofundme site is doing is really accomplishing is lowering the amount available for any new coach thereby ensuring that we get another crappy coach to replace the one we already have w/a buyout that will be prohibitive in spending even more when the Big Ten money really starts to roll in.

I read this three times and it makes no sense what's so ever. You sound like one of Flood's press conference's. Happy hour just started please slow down.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

No and the difference is in the method and spirit in which that money is gotten.

What is the difference?

This has been mentioned scores of times in the last 48 hours, but nobody has actually explained what is different about this versus 10 well heeled donors walking into Julie's office with a check and saying, "fire that incompetent boob."

You guys are going to be on the wrong side of athletic fundraising history on this one.

I guarantee you this is will be the norm within 5 seasons.

Why should a department kiss some guy's ass for 12 months a year to get 10k when they can raise 10k in 48 hours and not make a phone call?

 

[mildone]

I read this three times and it makes no sense what's so ever. You sound like one of Flood's press conference's. Happy hour just started please slow down.

You're advertising that you're too dumb to understand a simple concept? And you're telling me to slow down w/the alcohol consumption? LOL

 

[ruhudsonfan]

I'm all for grassroots movements in theory. But in practice, this one is ill-advised. If I'm the school, I'd refuse to touch that money (which seems to be what they have stated they are doing).

BUT WHY

I'm really at a loss?

It's distasteful?

It's too public?

Does anyone think that Julie isn't doing this behind the scenes? Of course she is. She's just doing it with more zeros attached.

The world wants transparency. This is transparent.

You suck. We're the stakeholders. We want you out. Here is XX number of dollars toward making that happen.

ANd in return? I want NOTHING.

I don't want parking passes, sideline passes, a london broil, a car magnet. Nothing. Take my money with no strings attached.