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OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY

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Probably closer to Solyndra
Good reference. Had to look that one up.
Was thinking Theranos--one thing they were honest about- they were out for blood. 😉

Back to the wind folly. Wonder if anyone has done a true calculation on the cost per kwH this project will deliver when it is done.
 
Nobody forced anyone to get a vaccine.

There were restrictions placed on unvaccinated people by private enterprise - as is the right of those private entities.

The U.S. military enacted a Covid vaccine requirement. The military has had many vaccine requirements, for as long as there have been vaccines.

The sad little anti-vax snowflakes have played this as unprecedented. It's not. When the Rubella vaccine was developed in 1969 they lined us up in school - public school - and rolled up our sleeves.

So yeah, this whole bullshit talk track of yours is just. so. boring. You don't want to get vaccinated? Don't. Nobody is forcing you. But you don't get to complain about your own choice.

More than 250,000 children who entered kindergarten in fall 2021 may be at risk for measles, one of the most infectious
pathogens on the planet, because they did not receive the vaccinations required to enroll in school, according to federal health data released Thursday.

Only about 93 percent of American kindergartners were vaccinated against the potentially fatal disease with the required two doses - the second year in a row that measles mumps and rubella (MMR) coverage fell below the 95 percent level needed to prevent the virus from spreading in the community. The last time U.S. kindergartners had that protection was during the 2019-2020 school year, before the start of the pandemic.

The report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also shows continued decline in immunization rates for three other childhood vaccines that prevent diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis (DTaP), polio and chickenpox among kindergartners in 2021.

The latest data underscores concerns that growing parental resistance to routine childhood immunizations is fueling a resurgence in vaccine-preventable diseases, such as the recent measles outbreaks in Minnesota and Columbus, Ohio that sickened more than 100 children last year. The pandemic has magnified the issue because of the politicization around coronavirus vaccines, and the lingering consequences of school closures and fewer children going to the doctor on immunization rates.
 
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More than 250,000 children who entered kindergarten in fall 2021 may be at risk for measles, one of the most infectious
pathogens on the planet, because they did not receive the vaccinations required to enroll in school, according to federal health data released Thursday.

Only about 93 percent of American kindergartners were vaccinated against the potentially fatal disease with the required two doses - the second year in a row that measles mumps and rubella (MMR) coverage fell below the 95 percent level needed to prevent the virus from spreading in the community. The last time U.S. kindergartners had that protection was during the 2019-2020 school year, before the start of the pandemic.

The report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also shows continued decline in immunization rates for three other childhood vaccines that prevent diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis (DTaP), polio and chickenpox among kindergartners in 2021.

The latest data underscores concerns that growing parental resistance to routine childhood immunizations is fueling a resurgence in vaccine-preventable diseases, such as the recent measles outbreaks in Minnesota and Columbus, Ohio that sickened more than 100 children last year. The pandemic has magnified the issue because of the politicization around coronavirus vaccines, and the lingering consequences of school closures and fewer children going to the doctor on immunization rates.

We need special schools for kids of the antivaxxers.

Maybe even special communities for the antivaxxers, themselves. Some sort of "camp", maybe.
 
We need special schools for kids of the antivaxxers.

Maybe even special communities for the antivaxxers, themselves. Some sort of "camp", maybe.

RFK Jr. can be mayor.

Jenny McCarthy can be Homecoming Queen.
 
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We need special schools for kids of the antivaxxers.

Maybe even special communities for the antivaxxers, themselves. Some sort of "camp", maybe.

Build a wall on the Florida/Georgia border. They have been asking for one, anyway.

And I'm sure all our pals that have been threatening to leave NJ will finally do what they say anyway, right?
 
I know this is anecdotal, but I was reading and watching as many stories as I could about the pediatric trials for the vaccine and I found it interesting that a good number of the identifiable parents of the kids in the trial were medical professionals. Specifically, doctors.

It told me the majority of the medical professionals felt the covid risk was greater than the vaccine risk for their kids and wanted them vaccinated as soon as possible. As such they were willing to put them into a trial

Listen I think we can trust people who cut grass for a living or over a fancy pants doctor when it comes to whether vaccines are safe or not.

It is clear that the vaccine lobby has been dreaming of implanting microchips into the arms of our beloved baby boomers and this was the final culmination.
 
Build a wall on the Florida/Georgia border. They have been asking for one, anyway.

And I'm sure all our pals that have been threatening to leave NJ will finally do what they say anyway, right?

those pesky facts

the 2022 study is based on household moves handled by the UniGroup network (parent company of United Van Lines) within the 48 contiguous states and Washington, D.C. and ranks states based off the inbound and outbound percentages of total moves in each state. United classifies states as “high inbound” if 55 percent or more of the moves are going into a state, “high outbound” if 55 percent or more moves were coming out of a state or “balanced” if the difference between inbound and outbound is negligible.


Moving Out​

 
I can't leave more than once.
I left and came back 3 times. Been back since 1998:

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@RU4Real Do you think @T2Kplus10 will have anything to say about ships?

 
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T2K was all for pipelines and nuclear plants except when it was in his backyard. The windmill farms sound very similar. We need to generate as much energy as possible.

Except by using the abundance of oil and gas we have.
On record in this thread and others, @rutgersdave of saying just that.

And also what @Caliknight is saying too.

Use them all (hydro, solar, nuclear, wind, fossil). Especially the ones we have here.
 
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Ever seen the size of one of those offshore windmills? I believe offshore also provides more consistent wind. Solar integrated into building would help but not be enough.
Are they bigger than a city? Put the windmills on the buildings using the energy.
 
Like a Jiffy Pop…


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That rotor design only works if freewheeling - it won't turn a generator.

The problem with "put windmills on the buildings that use the energy" is that they would have to be too large for the structure to readily support. Roof loads are a pretty serious thing, especially with tall buildings.

Localized wind turbines on a smaller scale absolutely would be contributory to the overall demand but wouldn't actually replace any non-localized source.

The counter-argument to offshore wind - that we should be drilling instead because of the costs of offshore wind production - should probably be shelved given the fact that deep water drilling rigs run about $1B and the day rate for offshore production is expected to hit half a million dollars by the end of the year.
 
On record in this thread and others, @rutgersdave of saying just that.

And also what @Caliknight is saying too.

Use them all (hydro, solar, nuclear, wind, fossil). Especially the ones we have here.
A big problem is no one wants a nuclear plant anywhere near them. You can see the same thing here with the wind turbines. Places like Texas have all this open land to put them far away from the population. We don't have that luxury here. The issue is NIMBY as much as anything.

You remember what happened when the gov't proposed 1 turbine at the training center in Sea Girt?
 
* A big problem is no one wants a nuclear plant anywhere near them. You can see the same thing here with the wind turbines. Places like Texas have all this open land to put them far away from the population. We don't have that luxury here. The issue is NIMBY as much as anything.

You remember what happened when the gov't proposed 1 turbine at the training center in Sea Girt?
If recall correctly it had to do with the hum from the windmills, not so much about the effect on birds, disposal or anything else.

Just the "annoying" hum they give off. So that sounds like some real NIMBY stuff right there. 😝

*Nor should it be, if possible.
 
That rotor design only works if freewheeling - it won't turn a generator.
I figured as much. But it was the first thing that popped into my head. LOL

And I wanted to say Jiffy Pop on here.🙂
 
those pesky facts

the 2022 study is based on household moves handled by the UniGroup network (parent company of United Van Lines) within the 48 contiguous states and Washington, D.C. and ranks states based off the inbound and outbound percentages of total moves in each state. United classifies states as “high inbound” if 55 percent or more of the moves are going into a state, “high outbound” if 55 percent or more moves were coming out of a state or “balanced” if the difference between inbound and outbound is negligible.


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LOL that van rentals are a study but not the census.

You realize the population of NJ increased last census right?
 
2020?

Take out Lakewood influx from NYC and immigrants in North Jersey and let me know how we're doing
 
discussion was topic of people moving out of NJ because of how it's trending.

influx of immigrants would support the 2022 study (link above) showing people are moving out of NJ into other states.

argument can also be made that influx in Lakewood caused others to move away from that entire area, as well as out of the state. people are fleeing Toms River and Brick faster than Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning hauling ass out of Jersey when those aliens hit.

 
Love when guys who have lived in NJ their whole lives trip over themselves to try to fake how terrible it is 😂

Just move, bro.
Clarification. NJ is a great state. The problem is Trenton and most other gov entities are desperately trying to f it up.
 
discussion was topic of people moving out of NJ because of how it's trending.

influx of immigrants would support the 2022 study (link above) showing people are moving out of NJ into other states.

argument can also be made that influx in Lakewood caused others to move away from that entire area, as well as out of the state. people are fleeing Toms River and Brick faster than Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning hauling ass out of Jersey when those aliens hit.

People moving out to warmer states is normal for retirees and due to the demographics, the number of baby boomers retiring are increasing the last 5 years. Homes prices were at their higher in 2021/ early 2022 and perfect time to sell. That’s probably the main reason the outflow is greater. Nothing unusual about that. I am a baby boomer as well as my siblings and we are all staying in NJ due to family in the area but if we couldn’t afford to stay we would move.

When you get older, You also get colder another reason to move to a warmer place. I’m considering buying another place in a warmer state.
 
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People moving out to warmer states is normal for retirees and due to the demographics, the number of baby boomers retiring are increasing the last 5 years. That’s probably the main reason the outflow is greater. Nothing unusual about that. I am a baby boomer as well as my siblings and we are all staying in NJ due to family in the area but if we couldn’t afford to stay we would move.

When you get older, You also get colder another reason to move to a warmer place. I’m considering buying another place in a warmer state.
Once you factor in the natural birth rate, NJ pop has been essentially flat for a while now.
 
discussion was topic of people moving out of NJ because of how it's trending.

influx of immigrants would support the 2022 study (link above) showing people are moving out of NJ into other states.

argument can also be made that influx in Lakewood caused others to move away from that entire area, as well as out of the state. people are fleeing Toms River and Brick faster than Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning hauling ass out of Jersey when those aliens hit.

I live in Jackson. 5 houses in my neighborhood have sold in the past year. An orthodox family, a Hasidic family, an Albania family, a family secular Jewish from Brooklyn and a family from a different part of Jackson are the new owners.

The sellers moved to Manasquan, Manalapan, Freehold, Manahawkin and Howell.
 
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I live in Jackson. 5 houses in my neighborhood have sold in the past year. An orthodox family, a Hasidic family, an Albania family, a family secular Jewish from Brooklyn and a family from a different part of Jackson are the new owners.

The sellers moved to Manasquan, Manalapan, Freehold, Manahawkin and Howell.
Jackson = Lakewood 2.0

Time to bail my union loving friend.
 
Jackson is cursed. Its very existence is an affront to the Pine Barrens and, in time, it will be consumed by the forest.
 
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