It's snowing in Philadelphia for the past hour but nothing is sticking. It's 37 degrees at 12:15.Not sure what this means for later - but current observations in PA are much snowier than modeled.
It's snowing in Philadelphia for the past hour but nothing is sticking. It's 37 degrees at 12:15.Not sure what this means for later - but current observations in PA are much snowier than modeled.
It’s been sticking out here on the Main Line. I’m in Wayne and it’s been snowing since 10:30. I already have a fresh coat of white snow on my lawn and it’s just now starting to stick to the patio. 34 degrees as of 12:20pm.It's snowing in Philadelphia for the past hour but nothing is sticking. It's 37 degrees at 12:15.
Not true at all. The HREFs, the favored tool of many mets, is showing 4-6" for most (including all of CNJ) with 6-8" in spots towards NYC and NW of 95; and the HRW-FV3 (future NAM) is showing 4-6" for most, while the NAM 3km is a general 3-5".All of the more short term high resolution models keep things more in the 2-4 range
Even the gfs the snowiest model is 4-6
Personally i think 2-4 is most likely for my area given what alot of the latest runsThat's not far from the NWS (maybe just a lower lower end of your ranges) or from my thinking, which is pretty well aligned with the NWS (wasn't for much of the past few days, when I thought they were too low early on, then too high for a bit, then too low yesterday and now maybe just right, lol), although I could see snows being a little less than the NWS is calling for and unlikely to be more, except in some narrow bands, which are impossible to predict.
One interesting piece of data is that the 32F wet bulb line is only about 15 miles NW of 95 (the wet bulb is the temp the air will reach once it becomes saturated at 100% RH, so if it's 37F but 67% humidity, for example, when the falling precip from above saturates the column, the temp at the surface will go down to 32F); our wet bulb temp now is 34F (37F/84% RH), so we need to advect some more cold air into our area to get temps down to 32F.
Decent radar returns for much of CNJ - assuming some in western CNJ are seeing precip (snow/rain/mix?); we're still saturating the column here with no precip reaching the ground.
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Hrrr rap namNot true at all. The HREFs, the favored tool of many mets, is showing 4-6" for most (including all of CNJ) with 6-8" in spots towards NYC and NW of 95; and the HRW-FV3 (future NAM) is showing 4-6" for most, while the NAM 3km is a general 3-5".
Just started in Allenwood/Manasquan section of Wall. Raining quite hard. Woo hoo.It's 🤬 raining in Jamesburg
The RGEM is finally coming back to reality, moving SE towards the other models (these are the runs since yesterday at 18Z, i.e., late afternoon, with the most recent one being the 12Z today which just came out), most of which have been moving a bit NW, so we're starting to see convergence. Where the snow/rain line ends up is still in question - and it will move during the storm, probably from 95 early on and likely moving towards the coast through the afternoon with maybe everyone snowing in the evening. That's a bit of a guess. Assuming more convergence, the risk of <2-3" for 95 is decreasing.
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Perhaps a bit on the wetter/heavier type of snow (doesn't seem cold enough for fluffy)? The little ones in the neighborhood are hoping for enough for sledding.Personally i think 2-4 is most likely for my area given what alot of the latest runs
A quick thump 4-8 pm
what are your sources saying.....this is basically just an appetizer stuff, when the cold air rushes in later we get into the heavier stuff where we thump for 3-4 hours and pick up our biggest accumulationsPerhaps a bit on the wetter/heavier type of snow (doesn't seem cold enough for fluffy)? The little ones in the neighborhood are hoping for enough for sledding.
Yes, the HRRR has been discussed here quite often. It's a a good short range high-resolution model, but is sometimes prone to wild swings. It's best for the next 4-6 hours, which is why it runs every hour.Its been referenced here before and isnt obscure
it hasnt even started...the main show will be from 4-8 in central jersey and maybe 3-7 downtoward PhillyThis thing is going to be over quick. There are a lot of radar returns to the west, but hardly anything south & east. The storm appears to be pulling north quicker than it is east...possibly going to bust badly from Mercer County east & south.
2-4" is certainly possible for the 95 corridor from Philly to NYC and most of CNJ, as is 3-5", but so is 4-6", as there's model support from a few models for each outcome. At this point, like I said earlier, I prefer looking at the radar trends and observations vs. what was modeled to see if the storm is over/under performing and I think it's too early to tell yet, as the coastal low has barely gotten going and we're not supposed to get the bulk of our precip/snow until the 3-4 pm to 9-10 pm timeframe. I'm guessing most along 95 and in CNJ, especially SE of 95 won't see much accumulation until 3-4 pm, except maybe a bit on the grass. But if that's followed by 6 hours of 1/2-1" per hour snow, we'd hit 3-6".Personally i think 2-4 is most likely for my area given what alot of the latest runs
A quick thump 4-8 pm
Decent forecast - maybe a little less than the NWS, but certainly possible; 5" line goes right over my house, lol (and I predicted 5.1" yesterday).
he is very aggressive with the 5-8 lineDecent forecast - maybe a little less than the NWS, but certainly possible; 5" line goes right over my house, lol (and I predicted 5.1" yesterday).
he is very aggressive with the 5-8 line