OT: New York Mets 2021-2022 Off Season Thread

[Doctor Worm]

Welp, this proves that the Mets don’t want Marcus Stroman back. Damm shame because the man can pitch… in NY… and wanted to be back. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Tico, you follow HS recruiting. MLB free agency is not that much different, except a lot more zeroes to the left of the decimal point.

It is not that the Mets don't want Stroman back. It is that he is not their #1 priority. Reportedly Scherzer and Gausman are. Ray is #3, but would cost the Mets their pick, so he is not their preference.

That's the way it works for Schiano and that's the way it works for Cohen. You can't sign everybody. So you identify your A-listers and go after them hard. Meanwhile you try to keep your B-listers happy while you slow play them.

Now if you are saying that Stroman SHOULD be the Mets #1 priority ahead of those other guys, you could well be right. I'd rather have Mad Max though, even at this stage of his career.

 

[Doctor Worm]

I’m only ok with Canga because of getting Marte. Otherwise ehhhhh
Baez is a must get right now. The Stroman thing baffles me. Unless they feel sure about someone like Gausman.
wonder if Escobar is instead of Bryant. I assume that may be the case, which is why we need Baez.

With Baez it will likely come down to is he willing to give up playing the prestige position - shortstop.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Tico, you follow HS recruiting. MLB free agency is not that much different, except a lot more zeroes to the left of the decimal point.

It is not that the Mets don't want Stroman back. It is that he is not their #1 priority. Reportedly Scherzer and Gausman are. Ray is #3, but would cost the Mets their pick, so he is not their preference.

That's the way it works for Schiano and that's the way it works for Cohen. You can't sign everybody. So you identify your A-listers and go after them hard. Meanwhile you try to keep your B-listers happy while you slow play them.

Now if you are saying that Stroman SHOULD be the Mets #1 priority ahead of those other guys, you could well be right. I'd rather have Mad Max though, even at this stage of his career.

I’m going to go out on a limb and use the college recruiting here too. Scherzer is on the level of not signing any DR’s in Rutgers class because you expected a guy like R Gary and his mom’s pocketbook to sign here. I put it at almost zero percent. Feel the same about Ray, we aren’t signing him. Gausman- that is one I could see happen.

 

[tico brown]

At least the Mets got a legit CF now with Starling Marte.

 

[tico brown]

Tico, you follow HS recruiting. MLB free agency is not that much different, except a lot more zeroes to the left of the decimal point.

It is not that the Mets don't want Stroman back. It is that he is not their #1 priority. Reportedly Scherzer and Gausman are. Ray is #3, but would cost the Mets their pick, so he is not their preference.

That's the way it works for Schiano and that's the way it works for Cohen. You can't sign everybody. So you identify your A-listers and go after them hard. Meanwhile you try to keep your B-listers happy while you slow play them.

Now if you are saying that Stroman SHOULD be the Mets #1 priority ahead of those other guys, you could well be right. I'd rather have Mad Max though, even at this stage of his career.

Id go for the 3 star, in state recruit like Stroman, who has proven to pitch well in NY and wants to be in NY.

Gausman looks like the one year wonder from P12 country who may or may crap the bed in NY like the many players have done in the past.

Now if theres a chance that the 5 star from SEC Country wants to come to Queens, then go after him. But not at the expense of the instate 3 star.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Marte has been on the decline for the past 2 seasons. Too late on this one. The Mets quantity over quality strategy rarely works out well.

Would love to understand your thinking...His power is down some but more like his earlier number. He had a great season last year after an early injury but almost every number was above his career numbers. And if you go from 2018- through now, his numbers per 162 games is better in every category than his career 162 game average.

Now- if you wanted to give a true concern, it is his age and being relied on to be a CF for the Met's for 4 years. I don't think it is an issue for 2 years but then he goes to a corner. And at $18 mil per year for 4 years, not all that big of a deal.
This was a HR signing.

 

[ponyfoot19]

A number of posters have opined that other teams are preventing their front office types from interviewing with the Mets because of Cohen. While free agent signings can't be stopped, I wonder if other teams will be under instructions to not make any trades with the Mets without signoff from senior management.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Do we know if the Met's may want to make Villar an offer or will Escobar pretty much replace him. I wouldn't mind keeping Villar on this team.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Would love to understand your thinking...His power is down some but more like his earlier number. He had a great season last year after an early injury but almost every number was above his career numbers. And if you go from 2018- through now, his numbers per 162 games is better in every category than his career 162 game average.

Now- if you wanted to give a true concern, it is his age and being relied on to be a CF for the Met's for 4 years. I don't think it is an issue for 2 years but then he goes to a corner. And at $18 mil per year for 4 years, not all that big of a deal.
This was a HR signing.

You know what his thinking is. Anything the Mets do is terrible. The sooner he goes away the better.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Do we know if the Met's may want to make Villar an offer or will Escobar pretty much replace him. I wouldn't mind keeping Villar on this team.

Villar is gone.

 

[tico brown]

Would love to understand your thinking...His power is down some but more like his earlier number. He had a great season last year after an early injury but almost every number was above his career numbers. And if you go from 2018- through now, his numbers per 162 games is better in every category than his career 162 game average.

Now- if you wanted to give a true concern, it is his age and being relied on to be a CF for the Met's for 4 years. I don't think it is an issue for 2 years but then he goes to a corner. And at $18 mil per year for 4 years, not all that big of a deal.
This was a HR signing.

You know what his thinking is. Anything the Mets do is terrible. The sooner he goes away the better.

After years of having corner fielders playing out there, Marte is a legit CF for at least 2 years. Should help them on the field.

 

[RUfinally2008]

Wasn't Marte on a lot of teams list?

 

[RUfinally2008]

Would love to understand your thinking...His power is down some but more like his earlier number. He had a great season last year after an early injury but almost every number was above his career numbers. And if you go from 2018- through now, his numbers per 162 games is better in every category than his career 162 game average.

Now- if you wanted to give a true concern, it is his age and being relied on to be a CF for the Met's for 4 years. I don't think it is an issue for 2 years but then he goes to a corner. And at $18 mil per year for 4 years, not all that big of a deal.
This was a HR signing.

He just has a hard-on for all things Mets. He loves the fact they kept Boone and Cashman, lmfao. Why him and the other d-bags can't find things to talk about in The Dead Zone is beyond me.

 

[retired711]

Steals are irrelevant in the world of analytics.

That's a perfect illustration of what's wrong with analytics.

 

[T2Kplus20]

That's a perfect illustration of what's wrong with analytics.

I completely agree, but the Mets are an analytics first team, which is why the manager is just a puppet (like Aaron Boone and many other managers).

 

[cicero grimes]

Hilarious a guy like Steve Cohen who made his fortune through insider trading and has faced numerous SEC probes and investigations and had his hedge fund pleaded guilty is calling a baseball agent unprofessional.
Hahhahahah

Kinda like a convicted felon like Steinbrenner trying to destroy Winfield through Howie Spira, You must have been so proud of him. I am sure KBEE was.

 

[T2Kplus20]

Kinda like a convicted felon like Steinbrenner trying to destroy Winfield through Howie Spira, You must have been so proud of him. I am sure KBEE was.

Cohen = your problem right now
GS = dead 13 years and counting

See the difference?

 

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[RUfinally2008]

Cohen = your problem right now
GS = dead 13 years and counting

See the difference?

What I see is The Dead Zone has 184 replies to 700, only 4,000 views to well over 10,000 here, hence the reason to keep coming here to stir the pot. LMFAO. Ask this current generation of young kids the best organizations and the Yankees won't come up as fast as you think. Subtract a few from the 27 and then get back to me. Someone's Kryptonite.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Mets out of it for Baez?

Báez, Tigers reach 6-year deal (source)

MLB.com is keeping track of all the latest news and rumors surrounding shortstop Javier Báez.

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[MadRU]

Mets aggressively going after Max Scherzer. Not confident we get him, but good we are really trying for top players.

 

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[Knight Shift]

EDIT- should note this is a parody account of the NY Post, but still funny:

 

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WOW

 

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[Doctor Worm]

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What I hope this means is that the Mets think they will get Scherzer.

 

[MadRU]

What I hope this means is that the Mets think they will get Scherzer.

Hope he isn’t playing them like Bauer last year.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Damn- Mets going ballsy- if we could sign MS and even get 2 years at his top level and same with deGrom- that would be nasty. Then start working on finding their next Ace so in the final year or two MS and DeGrom can slide into 2 & 3 spots.
would hate to not get him and have Gausman move on though

 

[Doctor Worm]

Marcus Semien gets 7 years, $175M from Texas. That probably sets the market for Baez. His suitors will view that as the ceiling. He may view that as the floor.

 

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[MadRU]

Texas rangers and Jon Gray working on a possible deal. Mets really need to get Scherzer.

 

[BigEastPhil]

I would hope / think that with gausman and gray going elsewhere - Mets are reasonably optimistic they will get scherzer. With Boras as his agent, I have a feeling Boras may sway Scherzer to Mets for future dealings. 🤞

 

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[BigEastPhil]

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uh oh. I wasn’t that crazy about gausman but should scherzer not signs with us then we ll need to sign stroman and Ray though by signing Ray - we’d lose a pick. What other pitchers are available? Going to be a sleepless night and hopefully not a punch in the guy night like with bauer last year.

 

[BigEastPhil]

Per Heyman - at this moment, Mets are hopeful / Dodgers are pessimistic at this moment.