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OT: New York Mets 2021-2022 Off Season Thread

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I’m not sure Sandy making QO’s to Noah and Conforto are big deals. Kind of no brainer. You do have to do some things now instead of waiting. And to be honest- having it work out with Noah staying and Conforto not, kind of what I hoped for. And firing coaches…they fired Rojas, getting rid of the rest makes sense. Let a new GM start fresh.
 
Hey as$wipe, count how many times I posted in the Yankees thread.3 times maybe all year? You needed my permission, nice what a tool, wallow in self pity of another season of trying to get to #28. lmfao. Go ahead, a person who calls me a Troll, yet never misses a chance to respond to my posts is hilarious. I'm so sorry if I burnt your butt, calling out another failed season by the Varsity. k That Yankee in season site was locked or else I would have burnt a couple more butts before all was said and done. Bottom line is, your fan base which acts as if your above taking the Mets seriuos, spend way more time in a Mets thread than you do your own. Listen to you already making excuses for the fan base that can't handle the fact your not thought of as the standard that all franchises strive to be, your nowhere close. Stop living in the past. MLB has passed you by. Mets fans, we've learned to deal with where we stand, you and The AMIGOS HAVEN'T. Which one of you will admit the failed prediction of multiple championships in a 5 year period by The New Core 4? That clock started in 2017, have some nads, losers. As far as the off season, yup, Mets have lots of work to do, the Yankees are solid, no need to change a thing. Maybe you make more changes than the Mets. Either way, my prediction, if I'm around long enough to see it is my own 5 year, is that you will still be waiting on #28. Save it Troll, as I know you will. PS. You really don't think Sterling isn't a clown show?
When does the teacher let you guys out for recess.
 
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Dave Jauss, listed as one of the Mets coaches not retained. I wonder who pitches to Alonso in next years Derby? Maybe Cole? 😎
 
I call to everyone's attention the linked article from Andy Martino. He is asked whether the presence of Sandy Alderson is a deterrent to top POBO candidates. His response is NO. No candidate has expressed any qualms about Alderson. The guy they are concerned about is Cohen! Perhaps his itchy Twitter finger may not work to his advantage.

 
I’m not liking that the FA I want the most will pursued by the Yankees as well. S Marte- Sandy never wins these battles and I still think no matter who we hire as GM, Sandy will still call the shots
 
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I’m not liking that the FA I want the most will pursued by the Yankees as well. S Marte- Sandy never wins these battles and I still think no matter who we hire as GM, Sandy will still call the shots
FYI - Theo was willing to come to the Mets, but Sandy would have to go. Theo wants total control of the baseball operations. Cohen said no. Bad decision.
 
FYI - Theo was willing to come to the Mets, but Sandy would have to go. Theo wants total control of the baseball operations. Cohen said no. Bad decision.
NO COMMENT other than Theo has won 2 rings by turning around long living curses. What has Sandy done?

Yup… SOS!
 
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FYI - Theo was willing to come to the Mets, but Sandy would have to go. Theo wants total control of the baseball operations. Cohen said no. Bad decision.
Source please? Goes against everything I have heard and read on this topic.

1) Widely reported that Epstein's next MLB foray will be as front man in an ownership group, a la Jeter.

2) Martino has reported that no candidate has expressed any qualms about working with Alderson. If anything, Cohen is their concern.
 
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Drop dead timeline for the Mets to have the front office, manager and anything else needed?
I would say December 1 for front office. That is when the CBA expires. If a new agreement is reached prior to expiration, it will likely be within hours if not minutes of expiration.

This will be a late developing off-season. No one is going to make any major moves until the new CBA is in place.

If no agreement is reached by December 1, then all bets are off.

No real urgency on getting a manager and coaching staff. They aren't needed until February.
 
T2K just trolling.

That DePo news would be shocking as well. He's totally turned around the Browns FO.
 
So many were sleeping on the Red Sox after a couple of AL East teams looked so much better in September! This has made the post season enjoyable to watch for a variety of reasons
 
The MLB Trade Rumors site has issued its annual estimate of arbitration settlements. Mets have 16 arbitration eligibles. If they are all tendered (which they WON'T be) that's $51 MM. Add that to the money tied up in seven guaranteed contracts, and we're up to $180MM before we've signed a single free agent.

 
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The MLB Trade Rumors site has issued its annual estimate of arbitration settlements. Mets have 16 arbitration eligibles. If they are all tendered (which they WON'T be) that's $51 MM. Add that to the money tied up in seven guaranteed contracts, and we're up to $180MM before we've signed a single free agent.

But is the real amount on tendered arbitration players? Don't you think they dump most, at least 50%
 
Haven’t we’ve had Sandy Ball all these years? How’s that worked out that would make you think that Billy Ball wouldn’t be the same?

 
Should have Díaz pitch to him. No one does a better job of giving up HR’s to opposing hitters.
Funny, but not factual.

In 2021, Edwin Diaz gave up three homers all year. In 62.2 innings. That's 0.4 HR per 9 innings. Second best on the team, only behind Aaron Loup. Jacob deGrom was at 0.6 and Marcus Stroman at 0.9.

You may have the 2019 Diaz stuck in your head. Let it go. Your head will be a much better place without it.
 
I just don't know how to take Beane. Yes, he has done a great job with the A's...BUT

Sandy got the Mets into the WS in 2015...Beane has NEVER gotten his teams to the WS. He keeps getting into the playoffs, he has had a number of good seasons. AND- he goes cheap.

The question is- does his leadership translate into a big market and winning the WS. NY - even if it is the Met's- does not accept just getting into the playoffs. We do not accept having just winning seasons. We are still pissed off about 1985-90 with on 1 WS.
Are we going to go Beane's way and keep turning over our team every 3-4 years. Never have a long term hometown star? Who do you associate with the A's over the past 20 years???
 
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I just don't know how to take Beane. Yes, he has done a great job with the A's...BUT

Sandy got the Mets into the WS in 2015...Beane has NEVER gotten his teams to the WS. He keeps getting into the playoffs, he has had a number of good seasons. AND- he goes cheap.

The question is- does his leadership translate into a big market and winning the WS. NY - even if it is the Met's- does not accept just getting into the playoffs. We do not accept having just winning seasons. We are still pissed off about 1985-90 with on 1 WS.
Are we going to go Beane's way and keep turning over our team every 3-4 years. Never have a long term hometown star? Who do you associate with the A's over the past 20 years???
He goes cheap because he has to -- the Bay Area cannot adequately support two baseball teams. He would probably be a lot different if he had money to spend.
 
I just don't know how to take Beane. Yes, he has done a great job with the A's...BUT

Sandy got the Mets into the WS in 2015...Beane has NEVER gotten his teams to the WS. He keeps getting into the playoffs, he has had a number of good seasons. AND- he goes cheap.

The question is- does his leadership translate into a big market and winning the WS. NY - even if it is the Met's- does not accept just getting into the playoffs. We do not accept having just winning seasons. We are still pissed off about 1985-90 with on 1 WS.
Are we going to go Beane's way and keep turning over our team every 3-4 years. Never have a long term hometown star? Who do you associate with the A's over the past 20 years???

He has to turn over the roster because of the budget limitations. He was pissed about losing Semien and not even being able to offer the QO.
 
He goes cheap because he has to -- the Bay Area cannot adequately support two baseball teams. He would probably be a lot different if he had money to spend.

He has to turn over the roster because of the budget limitations. He was pissed about losing Semien and not even being able to offer the QO.
I completely understand that he has to...but that has been the "genius" of BB...My question goes deeper. He has built a legend by needed to do it cheap. If he has money, does he actually go away from what made him special and just become another GM?
 
I completely understand that he has to...but that has been the "genius" of BB...My question goes deeper. He has built a legend by needed to do it cheap. If he has money, does he actually go away from what made him special and just become another GM?

Doubtful but who knows. I do know I'm willing to gamble on him figuring out the correct mix of what he was doing in Oakland and then what he could do in NY with money.
 
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Doubtful but who knows. I do know I'm willing to gamble on him figuring out the correct mix of what he was doing in Oakland and then what he could do in NY with money.
And Sandy telling him what to do lol just kidding but I still think Sandy is the real "block" on us getting anyone good.
 
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And Sandy telling him what to do lol just kidding but I still think Sandy is the real "block" on us getting anyone good.

I agree with you on that one big time. Beane might be the only because of his previous relationship with Sandy.

I still urge everyone to read Moneyball if you never have. What some people think it is compared to what Moneyball really is always gives me a chuckle. It's like peoples own interpretation of the 1st amendment with regards to freedom of speech.
 
Alonzo would have to make believe it was the 9th with a man on and a 1 run lead, then Diaz is the man, lol
Alonso would also have to make believe it was a game where we're up or down 5 runs and he's up with the bases empty as opposed to him being up with us down 2 and the tying or go ahead runs on base. 😆
 
Whether Billy Beane would be successful here or not is not susceptible to an answer. We'll only know if he's hired. But anyone here who is complaining about the possiblity of hiring him to run baseball operations is just a nonsense complainer who immediately earns a one-way ticket to the island of those you don't take seriously.
 
I actually prefer to have someone from an organization who makes it to the World Series twice in 15 years with a budget that’s the same as the yearly salary as the Yankees, Red Sox top star. Chaim Bloom would’ve been nice.
 
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