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OT: Snow - a little tonight, maybe more Mon-Tues

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Temps are pretty warm across the area but Mt. Holly has upped their guidance on snow totals a couple of times today based on timing & precipitation intensity. They're now saying that south / east of the Turnpike could see 2-4" of snow between roughly midnight and mid-morning tomorrow and that the morning commute could be messy.

There's a debate currently on the outcome of a system that will be redeveloping off the coast Monday into Tuesday of next week. The signals are looking good for a pretty decent storm, but the question of "track" is pretty much everything with this one. If nothing else it gives us something to watch over the weekend.
 
geez the RU- Wisconsin wrestling match a few weeks ago got rescheduled because of snow, and now the makeup is tomorrow night, and I got great seats !
 
geez the RU- Wisconsin wrestling match a few weeks ago got rescheduled because of snow, and now the makeup is tomorrow night, and I got great seats !

I honestly don't think it's going to be a problem. Midday temps tomorrow are supposed to be well into the 40s. The real hazard, if the snow actually materializes, will be with the early morning commute. Delayed school openings and maybe a couple of outright closures aren't out of the question.
 
Oh no you didn't 4Real..Numbers will be peeved you started a new thread. Well he was sort of sleeping on this threat for overnight and tomorrow so just as well.

Short term models are bullish on 6 inches from nyc on east to LI...where the NWS has upped their totals to 5-8 for eastern LI. This is going to be intriguing to watch because with virtually no hype and everything trend west each run people are going to wake up surprised. How quickly do things cool will determine whether its slushy or we get a legit 2-5 inches which will shut down schools and snarl traffic until it warms again by midday

Next weeks storm is just so cluttered right now because the models are all over the place with both systems,
 
There are a LOT of very optimistic snow totals being tossed around the media. Where I sit, right now, it's 45 degrees. For significant, accumulating snow to occur you'd need a combination of two things - a significant temperature drop and VERY high precipitation rates. The fact that the second of those things can actually bring about the first is what everyone is counting on to produce the numbers you're seeing in the media.

I'm not 100% convinced.
 
How much do you guys think we end up with and when should it stop? Not liking the idea of a messy Friday morning commute.
 
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Oh no you didn't 4Real..Numbers will be peeved you started a new thread. Well he was sort of sleeping on this threat for overnight and tomorrow so just as well.

Short term models are bullish on 6 inches from nyc on east to LI...where the NWS has upped their totals to 5-8 for eastern LI. This is going to be intriguing to watch because with virtually no hype and everything trend west each run people are going to wake up surprised. How quickly do things cool will determine whether its slushy or we get a legit 2-5 inches which will shut down schools and snarl traffic until it warms again by midday

Next weeks storm is just so cluttered right now because the models are all over the place with both systems,

Why would I be peeved? I've never had an issue with multiple weather threads - other people have, as they don't like too many OT threads - we could have 10 weather threads on snow for all I care. Or have you forgotten I like snow?

I assume you're kidding with your sleeping comment, but in case you're not, I posted about the potential last night, then reported on the significant shift in the models with today's 12Z runs early this afternoon, including a prediction that the NWS would up their accumulations and issue WWAdvisories, both of which they did about 3 hours later, essentially matching what I thought they'd be.

Those numbers may still be wrong, because as I've said and as 4Real and you and all the pros have said, this is a very borderline situation, where we're relying on dynamics (intensity) to bring down enough cold air from aloft to cool the column and change the rain to snow. High bust potential in either direction: could be much lower if we don't get the intensity and if we don't get enough cold air filtering in from the NW, but it could be a fair amount higher if some of the models are correct with the amount of precip and if the changeover is relatively quick.

And since I haven't said it in this thread, you see a lot of people saying it's "too warm" for the snow to accumulate. That will be true when it first starts snowing, as the melting rate will likely exceed the snowfall rate, but assuming we get enough intensity (like >1/4" snow/hr), the snow will start to accumulate, even on roads (especially at night and on untreated roads), and the morning commute (at least until 8-9 am - will get into the low 40s by noon) could be a mess - although I'd expect the major roads that are salted and have high traffic to be ok.
 
Just in from a walk in the winter wonderland. As of 5:15 am, were down to 32F and we have 1" on the colder surfaces and about 1/2" on the street in front of my house. Treated roads are probably ok, but any untreated road is going to be snow covered for rush hour, so be careful out there.

Snowing moderately with about 1/2 mile visibility. Decent sized flakes falling and this is a much "prettier" snow than the blizzard, since it's much wetter and less windy, so it's sticking to all the trees/branches - unlikely to be enough snow to cause tree damage/power problems, though. Love the absolute silence of a walk in the snow before most normal people are awake.
 
Snow covered roads in Hillsborough. Hear of numerous accidents already. Talked to some fellow plowers and salting is working so so in parking lots because its coming down at a pretty good clip and its all slushy.
 
Heavy snow in eastern portions of Jeraey...2 inches reported in Monmouth have about an inch in Belle Mead but much less on pavement. Snow is definitely light here so its all going to be about location with this system. Someone will hit 6 inches down the shore
 
Started snowing just after 4am in Linden, streets and walks around me were slick and slushy. Got into work ok.
 
Very benign conditions in Somerville just dusting sidewalk with light snow...and now in Bridewater seems like its sticking better to paved surfaces
 
Looks like the next juicy band, which might be the last, is going to be limited to areas to the S/E of the Turnpike. Ripping snow now in Metuchen. Had 2.5" at 7:15 am and should easily have 3" by now.
 
Snowing like a champ in So. Bruns. right now. Must have between 3 and 4 inches on my deck. Think I'll work from home.
 
Back edge coming to jersey border. ..snow very light now in somerset county...maybe 2 inches grass..not bad on paved surfaces at all. Eastern sections will get 3-5 but to the west not a big deal...in fact snow just ended here in Bridgewater
 
Looking at the radar right now, it's amazing how sharply defined the rain/snow demarcation line is. It's almost like one leg of an inverted parabola.
 
Looking at the radar right now, it's amazing how sharply defined the rain/snow demarcation line is. It's almost like one leg of an inverted parabola.
Nice! :>)

Think this one's over for anyone west of the Turnpike and maybe another 30-60 min of snow for folks east of the TPK (and maybe an hour or so for the immediate coast).
 
It's still coming down here in Wayne: I just looked out and we've got at least 4 inches on the ground. Heading out, so it'll be interesting to see what the driving conditions are.
 
As of now models arent too bullish with either storm....could get a prolonged light snow event with marginal temps....wont know until Sunday I think
 
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Watching the next potential storm for Tuesday-Wednesday that would bring snow for most, even those that haven't received much or any this year. Still a chance it misses as all options are still on the table.
 
So far models continue to show multiple storms for next week. Risk of snow beings Sunday night. That storm is suppose to miss but as has been the trend all season...some models now shifting it west. Then right behind it is Tue-Wed storm then behind that another storm late week. Lots of potential ahead.
 
All my snow from yesterday was melted by 3pm..

Anyhoo details still to be worked out but looks like snow next week would be managable in fact the Euro has 2 whiffs...even the other models keep the storm far enough east where we get some snow but not alot
 
News 12 just reported snow on Monday after 6pm and going thru Tuesday ending Wednesday.
 
What could of been. Look at all that precip off the coast.

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Monday storm looks like a miss.

Now we look at Tuesday storm
 
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