no dog in the ACC discussion but I'd sign up right now for 22% conference titles over the next 18yrs!
OT: ACC might want to settle instead of going to court
- Thread starter JayDogSmooth
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That’s the thing that people don’t get, if they don’t leave the league ASAP all that hard work and success will go down the shitter sooner rather than later
You can’t be $40-$50 million behind your peers over the next 13 years and fall 500 to 600,000,000 behind and expect to be competitive, it is just not possible
It’s just common sense and math put together, nobody’s going to stick around with that kind of deficit if they have any hopes of remaining competitive
Yep, that’s why it makes sense for the ACC to settle instead of getting all of their misdeeds exposed and then getting a lot less money initially than they’d be getting if they would play ball
need 12 votes to disband the ACC without paying through the nose to leave
I think FSU and Clemson need to get a go fund me from their boosters.
Or hope bringing in SMU , California and Stanford will make the TV pot close to
what the B1G & SEC TV revenue is and that's not really a realistic hope.
What's not legal. If it's in writing in the contract then it's legal. If they believed tall tails from ESPN that's on FSU and the conference. Shame on FSU and the ACC for being stupid.
I’d assume the lawsuit supersedes the 12 votes (meaning they’ll take their chances without the others on board)
I would think intentionally omitting pertenient facts would be deemed illegal
That and the Acc not holding up their end if the bargain in multiple ways and acting unscrupulous on multiple fronts makes settling before this goes to trial the prudent move on their end
I knew I'd get a response like this.
Wishcasting in terms of posting with an attitude "FSU is perfectly in the right in all things, the ACC should thank their lucky stars they were graced with our presence for 30 years, the lawsuit is 100% going to be ruled on in FSU's favor if the ACC is dumb enough to take this to court and not settle ASAP".
Frankly, the lengthy replies and FSU fansplaining (is that a word?) you pump out repeatedly on this board make me want FSU in the B1G less, because I fear FSU fans will end up as the B1G's version of how people see Texas - a school that feels entitled to special treatment by their conference. (We already have Ohio State and Michigan for that.)
I acknowledged that prior to the 2006 season, football was Florida State and the eight dwarfs. FSU's football dominance over 20 years is as relevant today as Nebraska's former dominance. Granted they are on the upswing again.
Nobody cares about any Olympic sport when it comes to realignment. Nobody. The only other sport that matters at all is men's basketball, and even that is small potatoes to football. Off the field, it's all about who will bring TV $$.
I will likely go back to just lurking on this topic now and seeing how things play out.
Never said FSU was right in all things
If they had component people in charge, signing the GOR extension may never have happened, and if it did under the guise of the league holding up their end of the bargain, they’d have made noise much sooner rather than wait this long
Never said it’ll be ruled 100 % in FSU’s favor. That would mean they’d pay zero?
Which, I think we’d all agree, is highly unlikely
Yes, the same corrupt & arrogant Acc that let things get this far, doesn’t want this going to court. Read the lawsuit, and you’ll see why
Nebby hasn’t won a ship in ~25 years and has largely been pedestrian for their standards once Tom left
FSU has won 2 in that span, played in 2 more title games and should have made the playoffs this year
I’m all aware this is a football conversation in that Olympic sportsman squad, I’m really pointing out what they brought to the table as an athletic department as a whole
If we just want to focus on football, the aforementioned accolades speak for themselves, and would match up against anyone, not named Alabama (or UF title wise) across that same timeframe
If you know, FSU fans at all, you know that we are nothing like Texas.
We were fine for the first 30 years of the ACC, despite essentially carrying that shitty league,, and have only recently begun making noise due to the untenable money discrepancy that the ACC refused to do anything about, which would’ve buried our athletic department, and more importantly, our football program.
You want Texas like arrogance, see Michigan, UF, Notre Dame, etc
You want a solid program (admitelly, not a blue blood) with kickass history, awesome traditions and fans that love to have fun, that’s FSU
which is lacking
we have people here who believe the ACC actually offered Rutgers and we said no a full year before the BIG came calling. you can't make this up
I don't think they offered, but Rutgers wasn't applying either.
Informal talks yes, but offer and rejection . I doubt it
Rutgers was probably trying to get in the B1G and taking unofficially with them about membership.
no one wants discovery, least of all the ACC/ESPN Seriously the only take worth anything in this thread
And even with all that success there’s a chance the BIG may take a pass because FSU is not an AAU institution and SEC as well because the conference already has a strong presence in FL with UF.
No one knows the probability of FSU being invited to either P2 conferences.
GO RU
Pertinent facts? Omitting? That is an FSU/ACC problem. They probably used lawyers without much experience. Accepting a contract from bad lawyers lacking details isn't the fault of ESPN or the ACC. FSU got lazy.
Certainly didn’t hurt us this year, kicked ass all the way up to the Georgia game when 29 guys opted out
Definitely won’t hurt us next year, top 10 recruiting class and a bunch of blue chip transfers coming in
Start getting beyond 2026, that’s when it could be become an issue
If you think they’ve gone through all this public bluster without an assurance of an invite to one of those two conferences, you are sadly mistaken
Aggie’s back!
If there’s one fan base who’s had zero success throughout the past hundred years, masquerades as a cult, and is the epitome of little brother to Texas, that would be you, Aggie
Absolutely got lazy
And complacent
Yet will still end up in the Big Ten or SEC within the next one to two years
If it’s the big 10, you should stop by our tailgate for the inaugural game in PWay
We’ll consume that beer you didn’t want to have at the pinstripe bowl
First I have no problem getting actually great beer cheaper then the crap served at stadiums. Or you could provide so..
You are on a soap box but you agree that FSU f-ed up. Ever hear of buyer beware? FSU f-ed up. And the crap about DeSantis you posted is hysterical.
The same folks who predicted
- that the PAC12 was screwed And would get no money
- Colorado the first to leave
- that Fox was interested in the Pacific NW and would pay
- that Arizona St and Utah would begrudgingly join the Big12
......weeks/months before there was any mention of it in RU forums or national media outlets/Twitter
Are saying
- Big10 will go for FSU the moment legal hurdles are addressed. Whether 2026 or 2036
- SEC and Big10 are all in on UNC
The fate of UVA, NCSt, VT, Miami, Clemson depend on how the domino's above fall.
So while there is a chance nothing happens, only folks who don't want the above to happen and prefer the status quo are saying it won't.
The only thing insiders can't agree upon are how many total teams leave for the power 2 and which ones. But again, that is because everything depends on what UNC does... and they won't do anything until FSU wins/loses/pays to get out.
So you mean FSU isn't willing to pay 200M+ to join the Big12 to only make 100-150M more if that?
Of course they know they have a spot in at least one of the power 2.
Cool
Hopefully the rain won’t keep you away, or you won’t have a birthday party - if you do, bring plenty of balloons and make sure to leave with a goody bag !!
Yes, fsu was asleep at the wheel
Still doesn’t excuse what the ACC did (and didn’t do)
Doubtful it gets to RDS’s level. As stated in thread title, it’s in the ACCs best interest to settle, and selection
If it does get to Rons level,, hel do what Governors in states that actually value their schools do… make moves to benefit those institutions and likewise, the state itself
Math, common sense and a little bit of knowledge about college athletics sound indicate yes
A few knuckleheads on here though are convinced otherwise
No it doesn't excuse FSU from being stupid. They signed a contract willing.
I've been to more college games then you have so stop your shit. When you get to 38 years of non stop Rutgers games (oh that's right you're an FSU fan and a fake RU fan.) Sleeping over night in the Blue Lot and Scarlet lot with the white bus and the Grumman RV. Let me know when you catch up. Hate fake RU fans. The Big Ten would be stupid to take a marginal academic university
then what do you call Nebraska and Oregon?
FSU ranked 53 which puts them at #9 in the BIG
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2023-24
The Big Ten Conference and its member schools have always taken pride in athletic and academic achievements.
cornhuskerswire.usatoday.com
The Big Ten doesn't want low academic universitiesthen what do you call Nebraska and Oregon?
FSU ranked 53 which puts them at #9 in the BIG
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2023-24
The Big Ten Conference and its member schools have always taken pride in athletic and academic achievements.
not true, they took nebraska and oregon and by the rankings, fsu is better than half the BIG
shocking to me as well but they'd be tied at #9
I've said years ago that taking USC and UCLA was dumb because they would have to take West Coast teams that bring nothing $$ wise.then what do you call Nebraska and Oregon?
FSU ranked 53 which puts them at #9 in the BIG
Big Ten schools ranked academically by U.S. News for 2023-24
The Big Ten Conference and its member schools have always taken pride in athletic and academic achievements.
Any reputable conference is not going to intentionally with withhold information from their members
This is a multi billion dollar industry we’re talking about here, not some rec football league were teams poach guys from other towns
There’s nothing fake about me, I’m an FSU fan first and Rutgers fan second.
I have season tickets for four sports and donate to both NIL collectives
Since you have ample time to post (impressive post count), you should do a little bit of research on what the defines a marginal academic university and you’ll see that the Noles fit about right inside the middle of the pack of the Big Ten
Congratulations on your 38 years. If you’re at the point in life where going to birthday parties means more, that’s you right.
I’m at 24 years splitting time between Tallahassee & Piscataway.
I guess if I say it a couple more times, people on an anonymous message board will be impressed.
Maybe I’ll get a trophy
Perhaps a cookie
Or a goodie bag
Are you forgetting that the ACC is just a collection of 18 schools? The ACC is not a thing by itself, unless it is different from other conferences. As far as I know, there is no ACC that can make decisions and take actions without the vote of the members.
Yeah, but for the lawsuit, the other schools are not joining it. It is FSU versus the ACC. Therefore, I don’t see how a certain number of those could be required or needed as they are suing the league to get out eventually.
You talk a lot of crap. You aren't a full time Rutgers fan. A side team to you. FSU is your favorite so just admit it. Please get back to me when you hit 38 years. You have a long way to go. Funny you want to FSU to get in the Big Ten.
Impressive posts?? I've been on here a long time. You are a rookie here and secondary fake RU fan. You ever watch the sun rise over Rutgers Stadium? Have you ever seen deer walk through the the Yellow Lot and past the Blue Lot at 4am? You ever play football in college? You are just a southern guy full of hot air. Probably a fan of Paul Finebaum.
