Did the whale deaths spike after the withdrawal from Afghanistan? I think I cracked the code!!!! 🤔🤡 🤔 🤡
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At this point, it's comical. It's shocking how a simple, maybe we should take a second to make sure we're not incidentally killing whales with sonar.... to this. Unfortunately much of this is intentional straw man arguments intermixed with utter nonsense and a generous dose of labeling sprinkled everywhere.
He clearly left out the part of the withdrawal focusing on when the end date was and who signed for it.So when things go bad, Liberals either ignore it or place blame elsewhere. To insinuate it would have gone bad no matter who was in charge is insulting and comical. That has to be the weakest argument possible. Imagine any other situation where a Conservative used such an excuse, you guys would go bat $hit crazy, lol. Correct me, but did he not say,"The withdrawal was a clusterf*ck. Guess what - ALL major troop withdrawals are clusterf*cks." Now where did he say not including winning wars, just ALL major troop withdrawals. Stick to weather and stop trying to run shotgun for someone who clearly was wrong.
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100%, they actually think it would have happened no matter who was President, unreal. Of course "numbers" would have stated as much if a Republican was President, yea OOOOK.
LOL. The thread has been taken over by the politically obsessed.
"Ooooh, let's see who can demonize the other side's politicians more. Spin, spin, spin. I don't understand it. We keep spinning and yet we're not budging from this spot."
The fact that Trump sucks and Biden sucks is about as irrelevant to the topic of this thread as it can get. But you mouse wheel riders don't care, do you? Today's gonna be different. Today, you're gonna spin extra hard. Today the mouse wheel will finally move. 🤣
Or... if the mouse wheel analogy is over your partisan heads, maybe this visual analogy might help. Y'all can fight between yourselves if it's Rs or Ds who have the "inside track" in the image. 😉
"Ooooh, let's see who can demonize the other side's politicians more. Spin, spin, spin. I don't understand it. We keep spinning and yet we're not budging from this spot."
The fact that Trump sucks and Biden sucks is about as irrelevant to the topic of this thread as it can get. But you mouse wheel riders don't care, do you? Today's gonna be different. Today, you're gonna spin extra hard. Today the mouse wheel will finally move. 🤣
Or... if the mouse wheel analogy is over your partisan heads, maybe this visual analogy might help. Y'all can fight between yourselves if it's Rs or Ds who have the "inside track" in the image. 😉
You'd have to be a complete moron to think he meant withdrawals after a war that was clearly won, when there is no longer any conflict. Oh wait...
You would've had zero problem with the withdrawal if it happened on Trump's watch? LMFAO. Again, riding shot gun for someone that never said or implied it was after a won war.How can he state ALL major troop withdrawals without clarification. You would have to be a complete moron to know exactly what he meant. Again, if you were on the other side of the argument you would have demanded the same. Pick the argument that fits the narrative. Go back to cold fronts and snow totals as it seems you make so many friends in those threads.
By the way, what would you say to parents who will surely lose son's and daughters in future middle east conflicts from weapons the nitwit left behind? "Sorry,but any President would have done the same withdrawal, not our fault". Comforting for sure. Sadly it's coming and the media will spin it as weapons sold from every corner of the world,and not from the nitwit's stash he left behind. Did the Korean {police action}😎and Vietnam Wars end with weapons left behind that could have killed Americans in future conflicts in southeast Asia if there were any? Will Joe Joe's be used in the Middle East? I repeat because you haven't answered that question as a likely possibility, you picked and choose one part and can't defend what we all know is very possible.
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Didn't seem to bother you the last 6 years,and don't recall you getting those panties in a bunch from the relentless attacks from Liberals on all things conservative.LOL. The thread has been taken over by the politically obsessed.
"Ooooh, let's see who can demonize the other side's politicians more. Spin, spin, spin. I don't understand it. We keep spinning and yet we're not budging from this spot."
The fact that Trump sucks and Biden sucks is about as irrelevant to the topic of this thread as it can get. But you mouse wheel riders don't care, do you? Today's gonna be different. Today, you're gonna spin extra hard. Today the mouse wheel will finally move. 🤣
Or... if the mouse wheel analogy is over your partisan heads, maybe this visual analogy might help. Y'all can fight between yourselves if it's Rs or Ds who have the "inside track" in the image. 😉
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Do you even read what others post? I never said I had zero problem with the withdrawal, as it was a mess. I only noted that I agreed with 4Real that withdrawals from hot zones (and he didn't have to say after a won war, like WWII, as that should be blindingly obvious) are usually a mess and I hypothesized that it probably woudn't have been that different under Trump, since POTUS's typically aren't much involved in drawing up or executing military/civilian withdrawals in enemy territory. Sure, renegotiating the Doha deal could have been pursued, but that likely would've meant years more commitment of personnel and material, which would've had its own risks. There was no easy, risk-free way to conduct such a withdrawal, whether it had been done at the end of Trump's term or early in Biden's.
Where in my post did I single out conservatives or liberals? I *never* single out either side.
I've been making these same exact points, always about both sides, and mocking all you partisan wingnuts, on both sides, for decades.
Right on cue. And Jackass Murphy has a sales ban on gas stoves in the new energy master plan (working draft).
New York nears deal to ban gas stoves in new homes
Supporters see the potential law as a national model that they hope can spur similar action by other states and the federal government.
www.politico.com
Whales have lost focus. They're not trying to go 1-0 this week. Sounds like some ships or maybe sonar is in the mix.
But, but, but RU4Real said "Again - another perfect example. NOBODY is "coming after gas stoves". That's stupid. You've been told by Hannity and Tucker that it's true, so you believe it". This is how trained the Liberals really are. If it's not covered by CNN/MSNBC then it must be fake news. You can put this article in line with so many topics the left called fake news and turned out to be true. Nothing hurts them more than being proven wrong!Right on cue. And Jackass Murphy has a sales ban on gas stoves in the new energy master plan (working draft).
New York nears deal to ban gas stoves in new homes
Supporters see the potential law as a national model that they hope can spur similar action by other states and the federal government.
I think they are worried about all the fumes from the gas stoves. You know, studies have shown that the carbon monoxide, which is heavier than air and water, sinks into the surface of the ocean and kills ocean life.
What's sad, is nobody takes up the cause of the plankton.
Interesting.. so Schnellenberger who was a lifelong Dem loses credibility because he uses common sense on crt and woke. Yet the climate change people seem more like a religion than anything else. As if science is not politicized by the left for every movement..now adding gender to the list
We know who they are. Its funny how they lost their marbles. You know it when you see it
I think their plan was to turn this thread into the CE board. You can talk about whales so long so it turns to politics.
Yeah, that's a strange take, but there's a lot of that today: If you don't subscribe to the entire liberal progressive playbook, you are a MAGA, orange-man loving nitwit with no credibility. Not a good look, IMO. Good to take perspectives from all sides and form your own opinion, rather than lapping up every shibboleth from one side. It's a problem on both sides. But, that's where we are today.
Not sure how a person's position on wokeness and CRT would damage their credibility on a completely different topic, especially when the positions are well-reasoned and intended to stirdebate. But that side does not like debate. They used to love free speech, but now they fully support the government shutting down free speech and weaponizing social media and media companies to stifle debate. Very Orwellian.
A member of Congress had the audacity to call Matt Taibbi a "so-called journalist" because now there is something suddenly wrong with him. This is a guy who actively and vociferously supported the occupy Wall Street protests years ago and wrote for Rolling Stone for years. Another member of Congress had no idea who Bari Weiss is. She was an editor for many years at the Wall Street Journal and the "vaunted" New York Times, which she left in disgust. Bari is a lesbian and hardly the epitome of anti-woke or MAGA. Strange days.
I suppose Russell Brand is persona non grata too:
I don't know who "they" are or I wouldn't have asked. I literally have no idea who he meant.
And I'm not seeing any proof of anything meaningful in this thread. So I have no idea what he thinks was proven.
In general, "proof" is a term that is widely misused, especially by the politically obsessed. It most often gets applied to matters of opinion versus substantiated fact. Or else it's applied to some bit of information so narrowly defined, and taken so far out of it's full context, that it's meaningless. And yet people attempt to use that fact fragment as proof of some larger concept - which it very obviously is not.
No he lost credibility because he simped and lied in a Congressional hearing
But hey keep it up bro!
Muh Twitter files made us learn Trump was the one trying to censor posts on Twitter
Muh Durham landed Trump under criminal investigation and exactly ZERO people in jail
Muh Uranium One- anyone know how many charges brought there?
Muh Red Wave- Dems gained in the Senate and flipped several governors' mansions and legislatures
Muh Sidney Powell and Muh Rudy- I almost feel bad
So yeah I guess it's fair to say you know a little something about credibility LMAOn
Well the CEsspool lobbied intensely for:
- A professor to be fired from RU
- A Shoe alum who attends "Stop the Steal" Rallies to be elected Governor
- The "red wave"
- Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani to prevail in court
- "Bull" Durham to lock up Hillary and President Obama
Anyone know how those efforts panned out?
Could they all have ended in massive failure?
Where/when?
Simped? I know what it means.
And the Twitter files revealed a lot about Big Gov, which is bad on both sides. The nanny state crap started after 9/11, and Cheney was Dr. Evil. It got worse with each subsequent administration on both sides. Weaponization of social media companies against "their" enemies is a big problem. Remember when the libs loved free speech? Maybe that is why many classic liberals are leaving the "party" and are politically homeless. So are a lot of R's, who are disgusted by the MAGA wing of the other party. There's room to identify with and support positions from each side, however. But as I pointed out, some people will completely discount everything you say if you don't swallow the ENTIRE playbook of their side. That's just weird.
Taibbi went through Twitter emails asserting a massive censorship scandal, but somehow *mysteriously* missed the fact that the former President tried to force Twitter to remove tweets critical of him?
I think that's why it's fair to say he is "so called". He's a paid shill for Elon along with Weiss and Schellenberger.
I thought Weiss was bi but in any case, being LGBT doesn't make one liberal. There were LGBT folks at Jan 6 including a trans woman who was recently convicted. I agree it's ironic but it's not really proof positive.
I am a subscriber to the horseshoe theory, whereby the far left and far right are a lot closer than they appear. For example, both are big supporters of Russia, which again is quite ironic, when Putin is both a USSR apologist as well as extremely anti-LGBT and basic rights for any minorities at all. People like Taibbi, Greenwald, Aaron Mate, Tulsi, and the rest of the "oh I'm actually on the left" gang have zero to say about Putin locking up anyone who opposes his war. They have zero to say about free speech when it's Florida trying to force bloggers to register or banning classroom discussion from kindergarten to college. But when it comes to a private company, they're deeply concerned about the private parts of Hunter and not about actual deeply illegal government action there either.
That is why they're not credible.
As to Russell Brand, he's obviously mentally ill but what I find really interesting is that he lives in the UK but refuses to answer questions about Brexit...but yet has a ton to say about American politics?
None of it adds up. Though it would seem like the checks from somewhere or someone likely do...
Simped meaning defended poorly without reason.
First of all the Twitter files "missed" that Trump asked for tweets to be deleted. President Biden did not.
Second of all, Twitter is a private company. If they wanted to delete right wing tweets they could. Much like Elon bans left wing accounts now because he doesn't believe in freedom of speech.
Pretty sure "libs" believe in freedom of speech. I think it's people like Ron DeSanctimonious that do not. Can you point me to a blue state governor that is banning books, AP classes, classroom discussion, trying to force bloggers to register, making it easier for pols to sue journalists?
We've been hearing "Dems are leaving the party" for how long now. Gee, seemed to work real well...let's see here...Dems have overperformed in absolutely every election from 2017 on. Including in November having one of the best elections for the in power party in decades. It's just not true.
What people like Taibbi represent is a very online discourse of simping and whataboutism. They are clearly paid. But let them do their thing. Because it's having the opposite effect at the ballot box. Every time a Taibbi opens his mouth, or someone says "Twitter files" and "Hunter's laptop" is another vote by disaffected Republican for a Katie Hobbs, a John Fetterman, and yes President Biden. It's another vote for stopping the absolute derangement of right wing victimhood. No one cares that Qanon and Antivax and whoever else plays the victim on Twitter feels hurt. No one is stopping their speech. We actually have more than enough of it.
Oh and in the greatest flash of irony...this thread will be mothballed by the actions of people who absolutely love Taibbi. Just wait lol.
the ones who are lazy and just say FOX NEWS or CONSPIRACY THEORY or CURRENT EVENTS BOARD to end arguments rather than actual engage.
Most notably the gas stove story which was always true and Governor Kathy was signalling this along time ago, yet in this thread and I believe in the electric vehicle thread, it was labelled a conspiracy theory. The Governor Kathy story is true so there is a push to eliminate them. Thats not a conspiracy theory
Much of the covid nonsense is being exposed. Thats not a conspiracy theory. Does not mean everything that people question about covid was true, but enough of it is being exposed. Remember when it was labelled a conspiracy theory.
There seems to be a lack of self awareness by a some posters who act smug as if their views which are almost entirely political are settled. Shouting Fox News when your sources are Joe and Mika or Jojo from Jersey or Likki Li or Mueller She Wrote
Look at how journalists like Schnellenberger and Taibbi and Bari Weiss who are not conservative get slammed when they stray from the 100% narrow religion being built on the left.
One needs to look at the behavior of the press conferences and press secretary in 2023 vs 2018 as to how anyone is being challenged.
The current president cannot even speak coherent sentences. I know most of you including Mildone do not even pay attention but these are daily occurances that somehow become acceptable. The hypocrisy is rich aint it
Common sense is suddenly lost in this country
hit the nail on the head, its the lockstep on EVERY issue that seems concerning. Thats why its more like a religion now than anything else. They want to cancel the freaking actress who plays the Wasp because she is a Democrat who was against government mandates for covid vaccines...wtf. The latest is Ana Kasparian a leftist progressive who was attacked because she made a tweet about never wanting to be called a non birthing person. Its a clown world and common sense is lost
Just so you know, and I fully understand you don't care,, I voted for Bill Clinton and Obama 1st term.
This can't be true because those issues have rarely if ever been reported on CNN/MSNBC/The View 😎 or written on Mother Jones{,Smart, Fearless Journalism},lol.
It is amazing how this thread echoes those of early CoVid when Wuhan and Lab-created were poo-pooed with the same certainly you see here with the whales discussion... the same certainty that masks or no masks had.. the same certainty that global warming had before it was changed to climate change.. the same certainty that Trump's vaccines would be unsafe before they became Biden's vaccines and were perfect and effective... the same certainty that printing money for "CoVid relief" did not cause inflation.. etc etc etc.
But its only whales and dolphins so, who cares?
what is fascinating is to watch who exactly is basically in lock step with what the gals at the View have to say...telling indeed.
Oh my God, this is so well written and thought out. You are going to be public enemy#1 to all the Rutgers posters who identify as snowflakes.
yup questions are always good, pay attention when they try to settle everything for you.
i am just for all people putting their cards on the table and stop hiding behind some sort of fake morality high ground. We all have our sides, there is nothing wrong with just admitting it. These threads like this one and the electric vehicles threads predictibly turn out one way. One side starts posting stuff, they get challenged with questions, someone brings up CE board or conspiracy theory or worst yet Trump..yeh..who the f cares. Then that one side goes back to just thinking they are moral and righteous ;acking any self awareness and saying why are people making threads political. Throw in mouthbreathing insults, wash rinse repeat.
I wonder how many American sympathizers in Afghanistan have been hunted down and killed with the weapons and ammo Joe Biden left behind,{of course many say it would have happened under any President, total bull💩} I know, to Liberals it's not nearly as bad as paying off a porn star. Let's see how they handle the laptop and another "Joe didn't know". Of course we all know another Joe that used that excuse, and I can't recall any posters on this site that believed THAT Joe.
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Let's be real. BrotherSkinny has issues and every single one of his EV posts are shitposts.
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