Journey got in on the fan voting ballot. Do they do that every year, or maybe this is why there were six this year?
ELO and Yes, very very long time coming.
OT- Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees-INDUCTEES ANNOUNCED
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ELO and Yes, very very long time coming.
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Cut it back from 5 bands to 3 bands per year, if there are three bands worth getting in, it's getting way too diluted...
I've been to the RnR HOF three times, a great experience, you can spend an ENTIRE day in there. Cleveland is a good weekend getaway city, combined with the Flats, and also go to the Great Lakes Brewery, one of the top craft breweries in the U.S.
Styx in the HoF ..??[roll]
I've been to the RnR HOF three times, a great experience, you can spend an ENTIRE day in there. Cleveland is a good weekend getaway city, combined with the Flats, and also go to the Great Lakes Brewery, one of the top craft breweries in the U.S.
Styx in the HoF ..??[roll]
I must be missing something.
Who exactly is Tupac...and what does this person have to do with Rock and Roll ?
its sort of like MTV....remember when they just mainly played rock, pop, new wave...well that wasnt considered inclusive and they got hammered to the point where rock videos stopped being played altogether...so the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is just like that, it cannot be just about rock its got to become all pop culture so expect more hip hop and rap in the next two decades
Expect me and other people like me who appreciate actual music to give even less of a $h!t.
5 for 5 of the bands I gave! A bit surprised I didn't put "The Cars". The reason why I didn't put "Yes" (not all that familiar with their music) is that they were perhaps the most boring concert ever saw. I also heard "The Cars" were terrible stage performers. Maybe I'm too spoiled from 70+ Bruce shows!
Either I have no idea what Rock and Roll means or they don't.
Yes is the only band that I had to walk out on.
The lead singer's castrato was just too much for me.
LOL, that word doesn't mean what you think it means. I think you mean falsetto.
I will try and make this as easy as possible to understand. Hip Hop can easily be traced bak to the roots of Rock and Roll and Rhythm and Blues. Hip Hop has its place in the Rock and Roll hall of fame just as Diana Ross and the Supremes or any other Detroit Motown Based artist does.
Considering the Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 got in in 2007 and they were considered the founding group of South Bronx Hip Hop then the artist they influenced certainly should also be inducted.
Just my opinion.
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The Supremes definitely do not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
That's POP MUSIC. They neither rocked nor rolled.
Whether or not a type of music can "easily be traced" back to the roots of Rock and Roll doesn't make it Rock and Roll. Maybe a relative of Rock and Roll....but NOT Rock and Roll.
Did I make that easy enough for you ?
Do you consider Stevie Wonder, Otis Redding The Drifters, Little Richard, Fats Domino, Ray Charles, James Brown or Sam Cook, The Coasters, BB. King, Muddy Water, Smokey Robinson or the Temptation Rock and Roll Music?
They were all , including the Supremes considered R&B acts, and R&B is a natural and Major influence to modern day Hip Hop and Rap Music. All of the artists I listed above, including the Supremes, were inaugural inductees of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and saying an act like Tupac for NWA who were greatly influenced by these acts should not be in is slapping these Founding members in the face.
When did you go to the concert? They had a lead singer a couple of year ago who was kind of screechy. The got rid of him. the new guy is much better.
So you're saying that, because these artists all were inaugural inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, any acts that were "greatly influenced" by them should qualify as well ?
Just a head's up, but I recently heard members of the country act Lady Antebellum describe how greatly influenced they were by the work of Stevie Nicks. So we're slapping Stevie in the face if we don't consider Lady Antebellum for admission to the Hall ? That makes zero sense. As does the idea that Tupac belongs in the Hall because of who his "influences" were.
Listen, let's just agree that it's misnamed and should be called the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
It's getting more ridiculous with each new group of inductees. I know I'm gonna throw up when Boys To Men get inducted. And yes....they'll probably trace their roots back to the Four Seasons...who NEVER rocked.
Tupac is in because he and NWA Influenced nearly every current mainstream and top 40 artist, and took Rap and Hip hop from the streets the the masses. not dissimalar to what Nirvana and Pearl Jam did for the Seattle Grunge movement.Like it or not, and i am currently in the not side, Hip Hop, Rap, and Electronic Music are the New Rock and Roll. Not unlike how parents disliked Elvis because of his hip Gyrations, us older folks dislike these genres of music because they are not what we knew as Rock and Roll. Get used to it because Biggie is getting in next year or the year after when he is eligible.
While they may certainly be new strains of popular music....they are NOT rock and roll.
Sorry, but most experts would disagree with your very narrow definition of rock and roll. The Supremes and every soul, R&B, hip-hop, and funk band definitely belong under the rock and roll umbrella. I like the "School of Rock" history of rock map. It's not as elaborate as some - I like its relative simplicity.
Why Tupac Shakur belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ck-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nomination/92353040/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ck-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nomination/92353040/
I love Depeche Mode, but they were much less influential on the birth of popular electronic music than Kraftwerk and Joy Division/New Order.
Well yes, thank you, I am an authority on music. You will kneel before me and acknowledge such before every Halloween party from now on. It's the only way you'll get me to play Deadmau5 and King Crimson. :>)
Sorry, but most experts would disagree with your very narrow definition of rock and roll. The Supremes and every soul, R&B, hip-hop, and funk band definitely belong under the rock and roll umbrella. I like the "School of Rock" history of rock map. It's not as elaborate as some - I like its relative simplicity.
Whoa....whoa. I see disco on that chart. You're kidding, right ?
I think we obviously have different definitions of Rock and Roll. I would just ask you what you perceive as the difference between Rock and Roll and pop music ? Or is there none for you ?
The 1st comment simply isn't true. Some, absolutely, but not "every" and likely not even "most." The 2nd comment, sorry, can't agree: Run DMC my friend.
That is a very interesting graphic, and made me think a bit more expansively about what is "rock and roll."Sorry, but most experts would disagree with your very narrow definition of rock and roll. The Supremes and every soul, R&B, hip-hop, and funk band definitely belong under the rock and roll umbrella. I like the "School of Rock" history of rock map. It's not as elaborate as some - I like its relative simplicity.
So what does not fit into a purists definition?:
1. Jazz- seems it should not fit--but Miles Davis is in the Hall of Fame
2. Disco -seemed to be the antithesis of rock and roll, but the Bee Gees and Donna Summer are in.
3. Rap- Beastie Boys, Run DMC and Public Enemy seem to have more rock and roll elements than Tupac (but maybe need to hear more)
4. Hip Hop-Sugar Hill Gange and Salt N Pepa have rock elements
5. Country- Garth Brooks? Some of the other guitar driven country bands?
6. Folk- Joan Baez seems to make a good case for exclusion of folk. What is the argument for inclusion?
Perhaps the hardest thing for a lot of rock and roll purists to digest is Jann Wenner's and the voters' flat out rejection, limitation, dragging out, delay, etc. of hard rock, heavy metal, punk rock and prog rock artists in favor of "less-deserving" genres of music where artists seem to be inducted much sooner. Deep Purple is a good example. Black Sabbath waited way too long. Yes just getting in this year? Black Flag influenced many bands that are already in the Hall of Fame. Moody Blues-why are they not in?
When is Led Zeppelin gettin inducted into the Hip Hop HOF? I didn't know we were non-discriminative all the way down to HOF inductions as well in this left winged world. Tupac Shakur? Are you absolutely ****ing kidding me?
You have to make a choice, and only one choice: 1. You are an authority on music. 2. You are an authority on weather.
You can't have both. Which one do you pick?
Depeche Mode blows. How dare you mention them in the same sentence as New Order.
What about Cypress Hill, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Slick Rick, Fugees & Lauryn Hill, LL Cool J?
I like New Order more than DM, but I find it hard to believe you could love one and hate the other, given their similarities.
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