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OT: 2024 Atlantic Tropical Forecasts: CSU/NHC Say Very Active Season; Rafael to Weaken to a TS before coming close to the Northern GOM

Milton now forecast to be a major hurricane, with ~115 mph winds at landfall, which is currently forecast to be in the Tampa area in 4 days, although the cone goes from the Big Bend to Marco Island. After that hopefully the storm will exit off the east coast of FL and head out to sea as most models show. People on the central FL Gulf coast should be seriously considering evacuating or at least have a plan to evacuate once the track is nailed down better.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 05/2100Z 22.7N 95.5W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 06/0600Z 22.9N 95.0W 45 KT 50 MPH
24H 06/1800Z 23.0N 94.1W 55 KT 65 MPH
36H 07/0600Z 23.0N 92.8W 70 KT 80 MPH
48H 07/1800Z 23.1N 91.2W 80 KT 90 MPH
60H 08/0600Z 23.8N 89.3W 90 KT 105 MPH
72H 08/1800Z 24.8N 87.2W 100 KT 115 MPH
96H 09/1800Z 27.7N 83.0W 100 KT 115 MPH
120H 10/1800Z 30.4N 77.0W 65 KT 75 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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Ugh. !

Hurricane supposed to make landfall on Wed AM ?
 
Summary: People on the central Florida Gulf coast (and even inland a ways from there) should be seriously considering evacuating or at least have a plan to evacuate once Milton's track is nailed down better in the next day or two, as the center of the forecast track brings a 115-120 mph hurricane directly over Tampa on Wednesday late afternoon/early evening (although the track cone goes from the Big Bend to Marco Island, so a Tampa landfall is not a given). If we have a major hurricane hitting Tampa, the impacts are likely to be substantial to catastrophic for hundreds of thousands of people.

I don’t often lead with warnings like the bold part above, but Tampa hasn’t seen a direct hit from a major hurricane since 1921 (and only one other time in recorded history in 1848), when the population was tiny, but for those storms the damage was catastrophic from both the winds and the storm surge. Even Helene, which missed Tampa by ~100 miles (at its closest) still caused the worst storm surge (~7 ft) since the 1921 hurricane, which had ~10’ of surge and the 1841 storm, which was likely a tad weaker than Helene, had an estimated 15’ of surge; and even a glancing blow from Helene killed 11 people in Tampa. 10-15 feet or more of surge and Cat 3 winds are almost unimaginable for modern day Tampa Metro, which now has 3.2MM people vs. ~100K in 1921 and a few thousand in 1848. Tampa's hurricane history is detailed in the link below.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article293362924.html

Details: As of this evening we have Tropical Storm Milton in the western Gulf of Mexico when we had not much more than a blob of precip 24 hours ago and unfortunately, the models and NHC forecast are calling for Milton to become a major hurricane with ~120 mph winds (as of now), with the center of the forecast track taking the hurricane into the Tampa area late Wednesday afternoon, although the track cone goes from the Big Bend to Marco Island, so uncertainty is still fairly high on the exact track/landfall, which is not unusual 4 days out. Storm surge maps aren’t available yet, but surges of up to 15’ are going to be likely along and south of the storm’s track, which would cause catastrophic damage, as would Cat 3 hurricane force wind gusts. Storm surge is likely be substantial (5-10 feet?) even ~100 miles south of the track, too.

After that, if the forecast track verifies, Helene will be coming very close to or directly hitting Metro Orlando, putting that area, which has 2.7MM people, at risk of seeing a Cat 1/2 hurricane as Milton moves inland; even the FL east coast near Daytona would likely see a Cat 1 storm in that scenario. Note that given a fairly fast moving storm, the rainfall amounts would likely “only” be 5-8” (locally up to 12”) for most of the Florida peninsula (except the Panhandle, which would get much less), which would certainly produce some major flooding, but likely not widespread catastrophic flooding. Also, as usual, scattered small tornadoes along and south of Milton’s track will be likely. And most of central Florida would see many downed trees/power lines and associated power outages in this scenario. Beyond that, hopefully the storm will exit off the east coast of FL and head out to sea as most models show, with minimal impact on the east coast from GA northward, apart from heavy surf.

The WSW to ENE track of Milton is also highly unusual for a GOM storm, but it’s being steered by a strong mid-latitude trough approaching the SE US, which should prevent Milton from turning further north than Florida and should also prevent Milton from emerging off the FL Atlantic coast and heading up towards the Carolinas, although that’s still 5+ days out and a turn up the coast can’t be completely ruled out (but is very unlikely). With regard to intensity, as usual forecast accuracy is not as good as it is for track forecasts and the various models show everything from a strong TS to a Cat 4 hurricane with Cat 2/3 hurricane looking the most likely (but that was also the forecast for Helene, which strengthened over its last 6-12 hours over the GOM into a powerful Cat 4 storm. With Milton traveling over very warm GOM waters and not expected to encounter much wind shear, a Cat 4 storm can’t be ruled out and, as for Helene, there could be some strengthening in the final hours before landfall. The usual links are below.


https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/61170-tropical-storm-milton—40-mph1006-mb/page/8/
https://www.wunderground.com/articl...10-05-tropical-storm-hurricane-tracker-milton

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/0300Z 22.9N 95.1W 40 KT 45 MPH
12H 06/1200Z 23.0N 94.6W 50 KT 60 MPH
24H 07/0000Z 23.0N 93.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 07/1200Z 23.1N 92.1W 75 KT 85 MPH
48H 08/0000Z 23.3N 90.5W 85 KT 100 MPH
60H 08/1200Z 23.9N 88.6W 95 KT 110 MPH
72H 09/0000Z 25.3N 86.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
96H 10/0000Z 28.2N 82.3W 95 KT 110 MPH
120H 11/0000Z 30.8N 76.1W 65 KT 75 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP


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Summary: People on the central Florida Gulf coast (and even inland a ways from there) should be seriously considering evacuating or at least have a plan to evacuate once Milton's track is nailed down better in the next day or two, as the center of the forecast track brings a 115-120 mph hurricane directly over Tampa on Wednesday late afternoon/early evening (although the track cone goes from the Big Bend to Marco Island, so a Tampa landfall is not a given). If we have a major hurricane hitting Tampa, the impacts are likely to be substantial to catastrophic for hundreds of thousands of people.

I don’t often lead with warnings like the bold part above, but Tampa hasn’t seen a direct hit from a major hurricane since 1921 (and only one other time in recorded history in 1848), when the population was tiny, but for those storms the damage was catastrophic from both the winds and the storm surge. Even Helene, which missed Tampa by ~100 miles (at its closest) still caused the worst storm surge (~7 ft) since the 1921 hurricane, which had ~10’ of surge and the 1841 storm, which was likely a tad weaker than Helene, had an estimated 15’ of surge; and even a glancing blow from Helene killed 11 people in Tampa. 10-15 feet or more of surge and Cat 3 winds are almost unimaginable for modern day Tampa Metro, which now has 3.2MM people vs. ~100K in 1921 and a few thousand in 1848. Tampa's hurricane history is detailed in the link below.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article293362924.html

Details: As of this evening we have Tropical Storm Milton in the western Gulf of Mexico when we had not much more than a blob of precip 24 hours ago and unfortunately, the models and NHC forecast are calling for Milton to become a major hurricane with ~120 mph winds (as of now), with the center of the forecast track taking the hurricane into the Tampa area late Wednesday afternoon, although the track cone goes from the Big Bend to Marco Island, so uncertainty is still fairly high on the exact track/landfall, which is not unusual 4 days out. Storm surge maps aren’t available yet, but surges of up to 15’ are going to be likely along and south of the storm’s track, which would cause catastrophic damage, as would Cat 3 hurricane force wind gusts. Storm surge is likely be substantial (5-10 feet?) even ~100 miles south of the track, too.

After that, if the forecast track verifies, Helene will be coming very close to or directly hitting Metro Orlando, putting that area, which has 2.7MM people, at risk of seeing a Cat 1/2 hurricane as Milton moves inland; even the FL east coast near Daytona would likely see a Cat 1 storm in that scenario. Note that given a fairly fast moving storm, the rainfall amounts would likely “only” be 5-8” (locally up to 12”) for most of the Florida peninsula (except the Panhandle, which would get much less), which would certainly produce some major flooding, but likely not widespread catastrophic flooding. Also, as usual, scattered small tornadoes along and south of Milton’s track will be likely. And most of central Florida would see many downed trees/power lines and associated power outages in this scenario. Beyond that, hopefully the storm will exit off the east coast of FL and head out to sea as most models show, with minimal impact on the east coast from GA northward, apart from heavy surf.

The WSW to ENE track of Milton is also highly unusual for a GOM storm, but it’s being steered by a strong mid-latitude trough approaching the SE US, which should prevent Milton from turning further north than Florida and should also prevent Milton from emerging off the FL Atlantic coast and heading up towards the Carolinas, although that’s still 5+ days out and a turn up the coast can’t be completely ruled out (but is very unlikely). With regard to intensity, as usual forecast accuracy is not as good as it is for track forecasts and the various models show everything from a strong TS to a Cat 4 hurricane with Cat 2/3 hurricane looking the most likely (but that was also the forecast for Helene, which strengthened over its last 6-12 hours over the GOM into a powerful Cat 4 storm. With Milton traveling over very warm GOM waters and not expected to encounter much wind shear, a Cat 4 storm can’t be ruled out and, as for Helene, there could be some strengthening in the final hours before landfall. The usual links are below.


https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/61170-tropical-storm-milton—40-mph1006-mb/page/8/
https://www.wunderground.com/articl...10-05-tropical-storm-hurricane-tracker-milton

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/0300Z 22.9N 95.1W 40 KT 45 MPH
12H 06/1200Z 23.0N 94.6W 50 KT 60 MPH
24H 07/0000Z 23.0N 93.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 07/1200Z 23.1N 92.1W 75 KT 85 MPH
48H 08/0000Z 23.3N 90.5W 85 KT 100 MPH
60H 08/1200Z 23.9N 88.6W 95 KT 110 MPH
72H 09/0000Z 25.3N 86.4W 105 KT 120 MPH
96H 10/0000Z 28.2N 82.3W 95 KT 110 MPH
120H 11/0000Z 30.8N 76.1W 65 KT 75 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP


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Brief update on Milton, which is up to 65 mph and still forecast to be a strong Cat 3 hurricane. Milton's track has been shifted about 70 miles south over the last 12 hours, due to a southward shift in the storm's short term track (due to a trough over the northern GOM), with the center of the forecast track shifting from just north of Tampa to near Venice FL and it's possible further southward adjustments will be needed, as per the NHC discussion at 11 am. This doesn't mean Tampa is out of the woods, as the track cone still extends from Steinhatchee, along the Big Bend down to about Marco Island, as we're still 3.5 days from landfall, which is forecast to be late Wednesday afternoon.

Milton is forecast to reach 125 mph winds in the GOM, but there is some shear forecast before landfall, which could weaken Milton, as it's forecast to be down to 120 mph several hours before landfall and could weaken further; the flip side is the NHC discussion notes that Milton could strengthen further prior to the weakening, perhaps to Cat 4 status (130+ mph). Needless to say, people along the central Gulf Coast and even a bit inland of there, especially from about Crystal River to Naples, need to be on high alert and thinking about evacuating.

Storm surge along and south of the track will likely be catastrophic (15'+) and there are the usual risks of inland flooding and Cat 1/2 winds all the way across the peninsula from 5-10" or more of rain and the risk of tornadoes along and south of the track. One piece of good news is that all of the models now show Milton staying well south of the Carolinas, due to the strong mid-latitude trough approaching the SE US and going out to sea after emerging into the Atlantic.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/1500Z 22.4N 94.4W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 07/0000Z 22.2N 93.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 07/1200Z 22.2N 92.0W 85 KT 100 MPH
36H 08/0000Z 22.5N 90.0W 100 KT 115 MPH
48H 08/1200Z 23.5N 88.0W 110 KT 125 MPH
60H 09/0000Z 24.7N 86.0W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 09/1200Z 26.5N 84.0W 105 KT 120 MPH
96H 10/1200Z 29.0N 79.0W 75 KT 85 MPH
120H 11/1200Z 31.0N 72.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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Hope something happens that weakens this storm, they don't need to be dealing with this while in recovery mode. Was hoping to get some rain from this, we R about 4 inches down for the year hell i didn't even overseed this year because the ground is so dry.....
 
What does it mean for captiva/sanibel? Also is it normal for hurricanes to from in the GOM?
 
What does it mean for captiva/sanibel? Also is it normal for hurricanes to from in the GOM?
Current landfall forecast is very close to sanibel, and if that verifies for a cat 3 hurricane it will be nearly as bad as Ian was a couple of years ago (cat 4). This is a very dangerous storm. And yes many hurricanes form in the GOM.
 
Current landfall forecast is very close to sanibel, and if that verifies for a cat 3 hurricane it will be nearly as bad as Ian was a couple of years ago (cat 4). This is a very dangerous storm. And yes many hurricanes form in the GOM.
Terrible news for those islands that are still coming back after two years.
 
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Just drove on route 19 up the coast through Perry on the way up to Tallahassee, they got 3 hurricanes in 13 months - place is a mess

Dad is in Naez and other friends / family scattered throughout the Sunshine State so will keep an eye on find
 
Captiva was building back. Not sure how they come back from another one.
 
My buddy's in the Melbourne area on the east coast, looks like Milton will pass almost directly over him. Just reached out to him to see what prep they're doing.
 
Brief update on Milton, which is up to 65 mph and still forecast to be a strong Cat 3 hurricane. Milton's track has been shifted about 70 miles south over the last 12 hours, due to a southward shift in the storm's short term track (due to a trough over the northern GOM), with the center of the forecast track shifting from just north of Tampa to near Venice FL and it's possible further southward adjustments will be needed, as per the NHC discussion at 11 am. This doesn't mean Tampa is out of the woods, as the track cone still extends from Steinhatchee, along the Big Bend down to about Marco Island, as we're still 3.5 days from landfall, which is forecast to be late Wednesday afternoon.

Milton is forecast to reach 125 mph winds in the GOM, but there is some shear forecast before landfall, which could weaken Milton, as it's forecast to be down to 120 mph several hours before landfall and could weaken further; the flip side is the NHC discussion notes that Milton could strengthen further prior to the weakening, perhaps to Cat 4 status (130+ mph). Needless to say, people along the central Gulf Coast and even a bit inland of there, especially from about Crystal River to Naples, need to be on high alert and thinking about evacuating.

Storm surge along and south of the track will likely be catastrophic (15'+) and there are the usual risks of inland flooding and Cat 1/2 winds all the way across the peninsula from 5-10" or more of rain and the risk of tornadoes along and south of the track. One piece of good news is that all of the models now show Milton staying well south of the Carolinas, due to the strong mid-latitude trough approaching the SE US and going out to sea after emerging into the Atlantic.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/1500Z 22.4N 94.4W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 07/0000Z 22.2N 93.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 07/1200Z 22.2N 92.0W 85 KT 100 MPH
36H 08/0000Z 22.5N 90.0W 100 KT 115 MPH
48H 08/1200Z 23.5N 88.0W 110 KT 125 MPH
60H 09/0000Z 24.7N 86.0W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 09/1200Z 26.5N 84.0W 105 KT 120 MPH
96H 10/1200Z 29.0N 79.0W 75 KT 85 MPH
120H 11/1200Z 31.0N 72.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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Summary: Milton up to 85 mph, likely to be Cat 4 in 36-48 hours with 145 mph winds, but could weaken to 120 mph (or even less if we're lucky, due to increased shear and dry air entrainment) before landfall near Sarasota Weds mid-afternoon; surge/winds/flooding impacts to be catastrophic for many and major for most near the track and especially south of the track, especially at/near the coast, but also including well inland. Fortunately, Milton should not be a threat to the Carolinas after emerging into the Atlantic. Evacuations have already begun in some areas and more are likely to come.

Details: We now have Hurricane Milton with 85 mph as of 5 pm EDT and the NHC is forecasting rapid intensification to begin soon, as the storm is over abnormally warm GOM waters and is surrounded by very light shear, which should allow Milton to become a Cat 2 storm in 12 hours, a Cat 3 storm in 24 hours and a Cat 4 storm in just 36 hours, peaking at 145 mph in 48 hours. However, the storm is expected to then encounter some significant shear and dry air entrainment in the ~12 hours before landfall, weakening the hurricane somewhat, with a forecast strength of ~120 mph (Cat 3) as it makes landfall Weds mid-afternoon (and even more weakening than that is being seen in some models) near Sarasota, which is about 50 miles SSE of Tampa and about 50 miles NNW of Ft. Myers. This represents about a ~25 mile northward shift in the forecast track center vs. the 11 am advisory; the intensity changes were hinted at in the 11 am advisory.

A landfall near Sarasota would spare Tampa some of the worst impacts as that would put the area on the weaker, northern side of the storm, while a landfall near Sarasota would likely lead to catastrophic surge (15' or more, although surge maps are not up yet from the NHC) from there down to at least Ft. Myers and probably even Naples and catastrophic wind damage within 25-50 miles of the storm's track. However, it's still worth noting that the forecast cone stretches from Cedar Key to Marco Island, as avg track errors 3 days out are ~100 miles from the track center and areas from about Tarpon Springs (~20 miles N of Tampa) to Ft. Myers are well within the potential track center still, so Tampa is not out of the woods for a direct hit. It should scare the crap out of anyone to have a potential strong Cat 4 hurricane just 12 hours from landfall and to be relying on significant weakening before landfall doesn't seem prudent - evacuation from areas likely to get catastrophic storm surges and potentially catastrophic winds (especially if the weakening doesn't occur) seems like the prudent path.

After landfall, the risks to inland areas along the storm's track are also substantial to locally catastrophic from winds, as Milton is likely to remain at least a Cat 1/2 storm as it moves ENE across the peninsula towards the Cape Canaveral area (with JAX to Ft. Lauderdale in the cone). Wind damage to trees and power lines (and resulting power outages) is likely to be catastrophic at/near the coast anywhere within 30-40 miles of the storm's eventual track and will even be locally catastrophic even 50+ miles inland. In addition, 5-10" (and locally up to 12"+) of rainfall for most of the peninsula S/E of a Big Bend to Jacksonville line, even down to Miami and the Keys, will lead to major and locally catastrophic urban and stream/river flooding. And there's always the risk of isolated tornadoes along/south of the track.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/61170-hurricane-milton—80-mph988-mb/page/13/

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 06/2100Z 22.4N 93.8W 75 KT 85 MPH
12H 07/0600Z 22.2N 92.6W 90 KT 105 MPH
24H 07/1800Z 22.2N 90.9W 110 KT 125 MPH
36H 08/0600Z 22.6N 89.0W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 08/1800Z 23.6N 86.9W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 09/0600Z 25.2N 85.1W 120 KT 140 MPH
72H 09/1800Z 27.0N 83.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
96H 10/1800Z 29.8N 77.5W 65 KT 75 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 11/1800Z 31.4N 68.8W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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Terrible news for those islands that are still coming back after two years.
Track did shift back north a bit with the latest update, to about Sarasota, which, if it verifies, would reduce wind damage, but storm surge would likely still be catastrophic even if the track is ~50 miles north of Sanibel.
 
Looks like Milton is about to go off, as we have numerous signs of rapid intensification starting. Will likely be at least a Cat 4 in 36 hours and possibly even a Cat 5. One other comment I've seen discussed in various forums is that weakening major hurricanes can still cause catastrophic impacts - Katrina is an excellent example as it was a Cat 5, but weakened to a strong Cat 3 at landfall near New Orleans and we all know the impacts from that storm.

 
Ugh.
Gf's relatives are in Englewood - their home was trashed with the last storm. All furniture ruined, interior sheetrock already removed, place (the side facing the bay) already boarded up. She was already considering tearing it down vs. sitting on it. Value is in the land, which will hopefully still be intact after this week's storm. Same story repeated up and down the coastal area.
 
I don’t mean to be insensitive, but perhaps people shouldn’t rebuild in the most vulnerable areas. Let FEMA but out the affected people in return for not building in a flood zone.
I hear you but you would wipe out half of
Florida if that’s the case. It had been 100 years since the last major hurricane hit captiva. Now it’s two in two years. 100 years people forget but this is becoming too frequent.
 
Quick update with the 11 pm NHC advisory. Milton is up to 90 mph as rapid intensification appears to have begun and the forecast is for a 145 mph Cat 4 within 36 hours, weakening to 130 mph (still Cat 4) in 60 hours and likely being in the 120-125 mph range at landfall Wednesday evening (forecast has slowed the storm down a bit and note that the 115 mph data point at 72 hours is 20 miles inland and that will have weakened the storm a bit - the NHC doesn't give intensity/location at landfall in their cone, which I wish they would).

The forecast track center is about 5 miles NW of Sarasota (Longboat Key), which is only ~20 miles from the mouth of the Tampa Bay, so Tampa is absolutely still a possible landfall location and I'd say that everywhere from Tarpon Springs down to Ft. Myers is at greatest risk of landfall (and catastrophic surge is likely from landfall to points 50+ miles south of landfall); the track center then crosses the FL peninsula, exiting into the Atlantic Ocean just south of Cape Canaveral.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/0300Z 22.4N 93.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
12H 07/1200Z 22.2N 91.9W 95 KT 110 MPH
24H 08/0000Z 22.3N 90.2W 110 KT 125 MPH
36H 08/1200Z 22.9N 88.3W 125 KT 145 MPH
48H 09/0000Z 24.2N 86.3W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 09/1200Z 25.8N 84.5W 115 KT 130 MPH
72H 10/0000Z 27.5N 82.3W 100 KT 115 MPH...INLAND
96H 11/0000Z 29.6N 77.1W 65 KT 75 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/0000Z 31.0N 71.0W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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Brief update. Milton rapidly intensified from 100 mph to 150 mph (940 mbar, almost Cat 5) from 5 am to 9 am this morning and is now at 155 mph at 11 am EDT, just shy of Cat 5 and the forecast is for the storm to reach Cat 5 (165 mph) in the next 12 hours. That's just nuts. Let's hope the increase in shear and dry air entrainment forecasted for the last 12-18 hours prior to landfall (to about 125 mph at landfall, which is still a strong cat 3) verifies so that this storm isn't a strong cat 4 or even cat 5 at landfall Weds evening.

The updated track from 11 am this morning is below and brings the storm on shore between Bradenton and Clearwater, with the center of the forecast track aimed at St. Petersburg and then Tampa (with anywhere between Crystal Springs and Englewood, still at risk of a direct hit) and the first storm surge forecast just came out and shows 8-12 feet between Anclote River (about 20 miles N of Tampa) and Englewood, so this includes Tampa Bay and assumes the weakening forecast, but if there is less weakening, that storm surge could be higher; surges up to 7’ are forecast as far south as Marco Island on the southern, stronger side of the storm, with on-shore flow. Rainfall forecasts are for 5-10" for much of the peninsula (except less for most of South FL and the Panhandle), which will produce major to locally catastrophic inland flooding.

After landfall, the forecast track center exits Florida near Cape Canaveral as a Cat 1 storm, so much of inland central Florida, including Orlando and all the way to the Atlantic coast, especially between about Daytona and Vero Beach, will likely see hurricane force wind gusts Mandatory evacuations of areas vulnerable to storm surge along the coast and even a bit inland near bays, inlets and rivers that could see major storm surges are underway and voluntary evacuations are being encouraged for anyone expected to experience hurricane conditions even well inland.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/1500Z 21.7N 91.7W 135 KT 155 MPH
12H 08/0000Z 21.5N 90.4W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 08/1200Z 22.2N 88.3W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/0000Z 23.6N 86.4W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 09/1200Z 25.5N 84.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 10/0000Z 27.7N 82.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/1200Z 29.2N 80.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 11/1200Z 30.8N 71.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/1200Z 31.0N 66.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP


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We have a Cat 5 after nearly unprecedented rapid intensification this morning.

Hurricane Milton Tropical Cyclone Update...Corrected
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1055 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024

Corrected for location/distances in the summary section

...MILTON RAPIDLY INTENSIFIES INTO A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE...

Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate
that Milton has strengthened to a category 5 hurricane. The
maximum sustained winds are estimated to be 160 mph (250 km/h) with
higher gusts. Data from the aircraft also indicate that the
minimum pressure has fallen to 925 mb (27.31 inches).


SUMMARY OF 1055 AM CDT...1555 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...21.7N 91.6W
ABOUT 125 MI...200 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 715 MI...1150 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...160 MPH...250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ESE OR 110 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...925 MB...27.31 INCHES
 
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I can't get over how fast this storm developed and the path it could take. If it comes in with that NE quadrant hitting TB I can only imagine the damage. We vacation to Long Boat Key in the spring and the rental we stayed in got 3-4 feet with the last storm. The island going to get crushed with this one...
 
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I'm hearing from family and friends in different parts of the state that there is still debris from people's homes on the curb and sand in the street from Helene. None of that is good with the next one bearing down.
 
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Talked to my father a lil bit ago. He’s evacuating in a few hours. He lives in Tarpon Springs. They are heading to Leesburg about 2.5 hours N/E of them. Doesn't seem far enough IMO. Hard to get a place he was saying
 
My parents are in Naples, but east of the airport. They're making last minute preparations as they've ridden out all the previous storms including Ian. Hoping their good luck streak continues.
 
Milton up to 175 mph, which is almost unheard of in the GOM - it better weaken significantly before landfall, as forecast - to a strong Cat 3 with ~125 mph winds, but in weakening, it's also forecast to become much larger spreading the hurricane/TS force winds much further from the center than now. Remember, Katrina was a Cat 5 less than 24 hours before landfall and weakened to a strong Cat 3 with 125 mph winds at landfall SE of New Orleans and we all remember how impactful and deadly Katrina was, so folks in the Tampa/St. Pete and surrounding areas both north and especially south, along the coast and even well inland need to be paying attention.

BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 10A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
100 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
...MILTON EXPLOSIVELY INTENSIFIES WITH 175-MPH WINDS...
...RESIDENTS IN FLORIDA ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF LOCAL
OFFICIALS...
SUMMARY OF 100 PM CDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...21.7N 91.3W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 700 MI...1130 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...175 MPH...280 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 100 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...911 MB...26.90 INCHES
 
180 mph, 905 mbar, as per new bulletin below and also a stunning enhanced satellite picture - nearly perfect symmetry and clear, pinhole eye.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents

BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
400 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024

...HURRICANE AND STORM SURGE WARNINGS ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST...
...MILTON POSES AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS THREAT TO FLORIDA AND
RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...


SUMMARY OF 400 PM CDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...21.8N 90.8W
ABOUT 80 MI...125 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 675 MI...1085 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...180 MPH...285 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 90 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...905 MB...26.73 INCHES

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180 mph, 905 mbar, as per new bulletin below and also a stunning enhanced satellite picture - nearly perfect symmetry and clear, pinhole eye.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents

BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
400 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024

...HURRICANE AND STORM SURGE WARNINGS ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST...
...MILTON POSES AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS THREAT TO FLORIDA AND
RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...


SUMMARY OF 400 PM CDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.8N 90.8W
ABOUT 80 MI...125 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 675 MI...1085 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...180 MPH...285 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 90 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...905 MB...26.73 INCHES

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Looks like this is from Mordor in Middle Earth.
Sadly, probably not going to be a bust.
 
180 mph, 905 mbar, as per new bulletin below and also a stunning enhanced satellite picture - nearly perfect symmetry and clear, pinhole eye.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents

BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 11
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
400 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024

...HURRICANE AND STORM SURGE WARNINGS ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST...
...MILTON POSES AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS THREAT TO FLORIDA AND
RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF LOCAL OFFICIALS...


SUMMARY OF 400 PM CDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.8N 90.8W
ABOUT 80 MI...125 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 675 MI...1085 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...180 MPH...285 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 90 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...905 MB...26.73 INCHES

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180 mph is incredible, wow.
 
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905 millibars has to be close to an all time low pressure for tropical systems in the western hemisphere. I seem to remember an 899 or something in a hurricane. That’s Hurricane Camille territory.
 
Brief update. Milton rapidly intensified from 100 mph to 150 mph (940 mbar, almost Cat 5) from 5 am to 9 am this morning and is now at 155 mph at 11 am EDT, just shy of Cat 5 and the forecast is for the storm to reach Cat 5 (165 mph) in the next 12 hours. That's just nuts. Let's hope the increase in shear and dry air entrainment forecasted for the last 12-18 hours prior to landfall (to about 125 mph at landfall, which is still a strong cat 3) verifies so that this storm isn't a strong cat 4 or even cat 5 at landfall Weds evening.

The updated track from 11 am this morning is below and brings the storm on shore between Bradenton and Clearwater, with the center of the forecast track aimed at St. Petersburg and then Tampa (with anywhere between Crystal River and Englewood, still at risk of a direct hit) and the first storm surge forecast just came out and shows 8-12 feet between Anclote River (about 20 miles N of Tampa) and Englewood, so this includes Tampa Bay and assumes the weakening forecast, but if there is less weakening, that storm surge could be higher; surges up to 7’ are forecast as far south as Marco Island on the southern, stronger side of the storm, with on-shore flow. Rainfall forecasts are for 5-10" for much of the peninsula (except less for most of South FL and the Panhandle), which will produce major to locally catastrophic inland flooding.

After landfall, the forecast track center exits Florida near Cape Canaveral as a Cat 1 storm, so much of inland central Florida, including Orlando and all the way to the Atlantic coast, especially between about Daytona and Vero Beach, will likely see hurricane force wind gusts Mandatory evacuations of areas vulnerable to storm surge along the coast and even a bit inland near bays, inlets and rivers that could see major storm surges are underway and voluntary evacuations are being encouraged for anyone expected to experience hurricane conditions even well inland.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/1500Z 21.7N 91.7W 135 KT 155 MPH
12H 08/0000Z 21.5N 90.4W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 08/1200Z 22.2N 88.3W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/0000Z 23.6N 86.4W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 09/1200Z 25.5N 84.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 10/0000Z 27.7N 82.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/1200Z 29.2N 80.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 11/1200Z 30.8N 71.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/1200Z 31.0N 66.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP


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NHC at 5 pm: "Milton has the potential to be one of the most destructive hurricanes on record for west-central Florida." As discussed 2 days ago as a possibility, this now looks like a solid bet to be the worst hurricane to hit the Tampa area since 1921.

NHC 5 pm update is now out and Milton is up to 180 mph/905 mbar, which is an incredibly strong Cat 5 hurricane, tied for the 6th strongest ever in the Atlantic Basin and it's still strengthening and is the 2nd fastest Atlantic Basin hurricane to go from Cat 1 to Cat 5 in recorded history (18 hrs; Wilma was fastest at 12 hrs). Fortunately, Milton is still forecast to weaken significantly in the 12-24 hours prior to landfall, due to increased shear and dry air entrainment, as it's predicted to "only" be 125-130 mph (strong Cat 3 to weak Cat 4) at landfall late Wednesday evening/very early Thursday morning. But the weakening will be accompanied by nearly a doubling in size of the tropical storm force wind field, so moderate to significant impacts will be more spread out.

The track forecast hasn't changed much with the center of the forecast track going over the barrier islands SW of Tampa/St. Pete, somewhere between Clearwater Beach and the mouth of the Tampa Bay, although it should be noted that anywhere between Crystal River and Englewood still has some decent chance of seeing landfall, given the uncertainty in a 48-60 hour forecast. Beyond that the forecast track center cuts across the peninsula to about Titusville with the storm exiting into the Atlantic as still a Cat 1 hurricane; fortunately, the track will remain well south of the Carolinas, although the GA/SC coasts will likely see 2-4' of storm surge, as will the Florida east coast down to Sebastien.

The obvious major risks are catastrophic wind damage for the coast and a bit inland within 25-50 miles of landfall and especially south of landfall (strong side of the storm), as well as catastrophic storm surge of 10-15 feet of surge between Anclote River (about 20 miles N of Tampa) and Englewood, so this includes Tampa Bay and assumes the weakening forecast. There is even 5 feet or more of surge forecast well north of the Anclote River to Yankeetown and well south of Englewood down all the way to Marco Island.

Also, the major to locally catastrophic wind risks move all the way across the peninsula for most of central Florida, including Orlando and there may even be some hurricane force gusts as far away from the forecast track as Palm Coast to the north and Vero Beach to the south. In addition, there will be major to locally catastrophic flooding from 4-8" (and locally up to 12" or more) of rainfall in much of central Florida down to Lake Okeechobee and in NE FL up to Jacksonville. And finally, there is always the risk of small isolated tornadoes along and south of the storm's track.

Some of the usual links below:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
https://www.wunderground.com/articl...10-05-tropical-storm-hurricane-tracker-milton
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/61170-category-five-hurricane-milton—180-mph905-mb/page/31/

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/2100Z 21.8N 90.8W 155 KT 180 MPH
12H 08/0600Z 21.9N 89.4W 160 KT 185 MPH
24H 08/1800Z 22.7N 87.4W 150 KT 175 MPH
36H 09/0600Z 24.2N 85.6W 140 KT 160 MPH
48H 09/1800Z 26.1N 84.0W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 10/0600Z 27.9N 82.6W 110 KT 125 MPH...INLAND
72H 10/1800Z 29.2N 79.5W 75 KT 85 MPH...OVER WATER
96H 11/1800Z 30.5N 71.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/1800Z 31.0N 65.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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