remember when this was called a conspiracy theory
Exactly. As well as mask, vaccines, social distancing lockdowns.You mean him selling Covid coming from bats in wet market and proven wrong didnt impress you?
they are part of ghoulish hives with no faith based value systemExactly. As well as mask, vaccines, social distancing lockdowns.
Zero accountability. As he continues to post new theories with that track record.
I wish him well and hope he gets help. Denial is a powerful coping tool.
remember when this was called a conspiracy theory
they are part of ghoulish hives with no faith based value system
Wouldn't it be better to discuss the substance/logic of the points made, rather than sling a talking point?This post could have been so much shorter.
"I have no idea how the economy works, but here's everything I heard on Fox News"
Wouldn't it be better to discuss the substance/logic of the points made, rather than sling a talking point?
Do you consider yourself to be a "tuned-in" liberal?My main criticism of President Biden is that he hasn't created a program for MAGAts to self deport to a country that shares their values like Russia or Iran.
To quote Barack, "It's the '80s calling..."
Do you consider yourself to be a "tuned-in" liberal?
Remember who that quote was aimed at? Mitt Romney regarding Russia. And Mitt was RIGHT !!!!!
Facts, but selective facts with no context or logical comparison to where these data points would be in a second 45 term. Your first point is silly. 46 controlled gas prices by releasing from the strategic petro reserve for political reasons, so there's that. Your second point is equally silly--no one said the pres directly controls prices, but they can administer policies that have a favorable or unfavorable impact on inflation. Please tell me how 45's policies wouldn't have been favorable for inflation? I'm not saying that inflation wouldn't be higher than pre Covid, but it would have been better with those policies. Your third point, using my logical points, how would unemployment not be better under 45's policies? I didn't say anything about extra jobs, so you're reacting to someone else. I haven't even touched on interest rates, but for all the reasons noted in my previous posts, they would be lower than they are now, which means loans would be cheaper. I'm not a big fan of polls, but on the economy, the polls are pretty clear--especially among independents--about how people feel about 46's policies. Now liberals will say that people just don't understand and we have to communicate better. But people know. Did I miss anything?They've been discussed at length. Presidents don't control gas prices. The US has the lowest rate of inflation of any developed economy. And the President doesn't control prices. Wages are up over inflation by a long shot. And unemployment is a record low and there are more jobs now than before COVID. The idea that people are taking extra jobs is a fabrication and disproved by the data.
Anyone doing bad in the current economy should probably look in the mirror long and hard.
Did I miss anything? I know consumer sentiment is way up so the Australian billionaire who tells you to not trust the globalist elite has largely moved on to muh caravan.
Please answer my question--it's a simple yes or no.I consider myself to be against:
- terminating the Constitution
- adjudicated rapists
- Jeffrey Epstein
- Presidents who leave office with less jobs than they started
- stealing from children's charities
- people trying to hang the VP
- TV stations that pay 787M in defamation judgments
- TV stations who argue in court that no reasonable person would take them seriously
- Stealing classified documents and hiding them in a bathroom
- Paying off a porn star while talking family values
- Claiming you lost an election when dozens of judges you yourself appointed found no proof
- Praising Putin and Xi
- Saluting North Korean generals
I probably missed some. Are those "liberal" positions? To someone who says the President controls gas prices and 3.7% unemployment is bad, yeah, probably.
But they're actually the positions of most of the public shown absolutely every November for many years now.
Maybe it's everyone else tuned into reality?
Facts, but selective facts with no context or logical comparison to where these data points would be in a second 45 term. Your first point is silly. 46 controlled gas prices by releasing from the strategic petro reserve for political reasons, so there's that. Your second point is equally silly--no one said the pres directly controls prices, but they can administer policies that have a favorable or unfavorable impact on inflation. Please tell me how 45's policies wouldn't have been favorable for inflation? I'm not saying that inflation wouldn't be higher than pre Covid, but it would have been better with those policies. Your third point, using my logical points, how would unemployment not be better under 45's policies? I didn't say anything about extra jobs, so you're reacting to someone else. I haven't even touched on interest rates, but for all the reasons noted in my previous posts, they would be lower than they are now, which means loans would be cheaper. I'm not a big fan of polls, but on the economy, the polls are pretty clear--especially among independents--about how people feel about 46's policies. Now liberals will say that people just don't understand and we have to communicate better. But people know. Did I miss anything?
Please answer my question--it's a simple yes or no.
Well of course, it's speculation, because 45 isn't in office now. You are full of talking points. You didn't see a precipitous decline in gas prices with the release of the strategic petroleum reserve? By the way, what strategic purpose did that serve? Unemployment is lower? You might want to look at that again, but for the reasons I previously noted, it would be even lower, even with higher labor force participation (which, in and of itself would be a good thing). So quickly and easily you fall back on talking points, many of which are not related to anything I've said, so someone is triggered and tribal.LOL. The reserve doesn't control prices at all. Never has. When gas prices were higher than they are now under W, did he control them?
The leader of your cult caused the inflation with his massive tax scam and mismanagement of COVID. You have no proof it would be better. The US has the lowest inflation in the world. Facts. You only have suppositions.
Unemployment is lower now than it was with your Cult including pre COVID. What logic do you have?
There is no doubt that many people have sucked down the fact-free talking points you have sucked down.
It's cute though how you believe the polls. How did that work for you in the big red wave?
People know. It's why you keep losing elections.
One day you'll realize fellow people in your 40 some odd percent of the country can cry all the crocodile tears their propaganda told them. But us patriots in the majority don't answer polls and are thriving in this economy, not attending rallies, not watching Fox, and we vote a lot more reliably.
Glad I could debunk your talking points with facts and logic.
Now that your propaganda network will begin to move away from the economy, let me know the next lies up. 3 Mexican countries? Maybe Nikki Haley did Jan 6? Let's hear it!
Jeez, you don't know jack squat about me, and I had the courtesy of asking you rather than assuming everything. So it was a simple yes. Let me say this--tuned in liberals are also tuned in to diversity. Diversity 101 says not to stereotype people. So your stereotyping several tens of millions of people doesn't really fit with that, does it?I answered. Do you struggle with English?
Like anyone who loves America, I'm against terminating the Constitution. Call that liberal, progressive or whatever you like.
It's certainly within your rights to call for terminating the Constitution and supporting an adjudicated rapist who flew around with Jeffery Epstein, who caused the inflation problem with his massive spending spree. That is your First Amendment right. To watch the network that had to pay 787M for lying and repeat what you heard verbatim on the internet.
If protecting your right to advocate for an adjudicated rapist who stole from charity and left office with less jobs than he started who made gas prices spike from where Obama left them makes me a "tuned in liberal" then...that's fine.
I know your cult likes name calling. Look what your cult leader said about a disabled reporter, John McCain, and recently about Nikki Haley.
Perhaps you look past that because you love 15% unemployment, stock market crashes, and spiking gas prices? Whatever makes you feel good.
its not a conspiracy it was called one by leftist men here who cannot grasp critical thinking, its the idea that our intelligence agencies and ghoulish think thanks use public figures as psy ops or to their benefit poltically....anyone with a thinking brain knows they doWhat's the conspiracy here?
its not a conspiracy it was called one by leftist men here who cannot grasp critical thinking, its the idea that our intelligence agencies and ghoulish think thanks use public figures as psy ops or to their benefit poltically....anyone with a thinking brain knows they do
What is a tuned in liberal?Do you consider yourself to be a "tuned-in" liberal?
Please see my post where I go into stereotyping. None of it applies to you--you seem very reasonable, so that is much appreciated.What is a tuned in liberal?
Aren’t most people liberal on some issues, moderate on some and conservative others?
Who we vote for is based on how we prioritize the issues.
I have good friends that vote opposite of me and we agree on a significant number of issues but we give priority to different ones.
He's actually tried to treat them like fellow Americans unlike Golf Course Karen who promises to eradicate half the country and wants them to rot in hell. But no, that's not fascist at all!My main criticism of President Biden is that he hasn't created a program for MAGAts to self deport to a country that shares their values like Russia or Iran.
To your first phrase, said as John McEnroe: "You cannot be serious!"He's actually tried to treat them like fellow Americans unlike Golf Course Karen who promises to eradicate half the country and wants them to rot in hell. But no, that's not fascist at all!
Lol like I said you can sit down. As someone who has studied a subject in depth I can tell when others haven't. Like you. The American right is now fascist.To your first phrase, said as John McEnroe: "You cannot be serious!"
Another thread that was sure to devolve into political bickering and name calling. Where are the mods?
Please take note of who are the name callers, at least in my direct interactionsAnother thread that was sure to devolve into political bickering and name calling. Where are the mods?
Are you a professor or something? If so, an elitist condescending and trying to shut down discussion--who would have seen that coming?Lol like I said you can sit down. As someone who has studied a subject in depth I can tell when others haven't. Like you. The American right is now fascist.
Thank you although I did get a laughing emoji so I apparently am not as reasonable as you give me credit for.Please see my post where I go into stereotyping. None of it applies to you--you seem very reasonable, so that is much appreciated.
Well for one, Trump would have fought aggressive rate hikes because he didn’t want the market to go down. Remember how he was browbeating the Fed in 2019 because he wanted the stock market to go higher?Facts, but selective facts with no context or logical comparison to where these data points would be in a second 45 term. Your first point is silly. 46 controlled gas prices by releasing from the strategic petro reserve for political reasons, so there's that. Your second point is equally silly--no one said the pres directly controls prices, but they can administer policies that have a favorable or unfavorable impact on inflation. Please tell me how 45's policies wouldn't have been favorable for inflation? I'm not saying that inflation wouldn't be higher than pre Covid, but it would have been better with those policies. Your third point, using my logical points, how would unemployment not be better under 45's policies? I didn't say anything about extra jobs, so you're reacting to someone else. I haven't even touched on interest rates, but for all the reasons noted in my previous posts, they would be lower than they are now, which means loans would be cheaper. I'm not a big fan of polls, but on the economy, the polls are pretty clear--especially among independents--about how people feel about 46's policies. Now liberals will say that people just don't understand and we have to communicate better. But people know. Did I miss anything?
Of course he would have. But the Fed is independent and would do what it thinks is best anyway, like it did in 2019. But my thesis is that rates wouldn’t have to go as high as they are with 45’s policies.Well for one, Trump would have fought aggressive rate hikes because he didn’t want the market to go down. Remember how he was browbeating the Fed in 2019 because he wanted the stock market to go higher?
Speaking of the markets, trump wants your brokerage and 401Ks to crash this year so that he can get elected. Yet this con man has his MAGA cult followers believing that he cares about them:
What do you base that thought that rates would not as high? Regardless, the current Fed and the current administration have nailed the soft landing.Of course he would have. But the Fed is independent and would do what it thinks is best anyway, like it did in 2019. But my thesis is that rates wouldn’t have to go as high as they are with 45’s policies.
And I always thought 45 made too much of the stock market. I don’t blindly follow any leader. I have my own point of view, mostly the broader economy and long term prosperity.
All they have left to legitimately complain about is the border crisis. Biden has been working on a border deal for a year. Now that a bill that has republican votes is ready, trump doesn’t want the problem fixed because he want the crisis to continue for one more year, so that he can get elected.They've been discussed at length. Presidents don't control gas prices. The US has the lowest rate of inflation of any developed economy. And the President doesn't control prices. Wages are up over inflation by a long shot. And unemployment is a record low and there are more jobs now than before COVID. The idea that people are taking extra jobs is a fabrication and disproved by the data.
Anyone doing bad in the current economy should probably look in the mirror long and hard.
Did I miss anything? I know consumer sentiment is way up so the Australian billionaire who tells you to not trust the globalist elite has largely moved on to muh caravan.
I went into it on an earlier comment, but basically energy production would have been higher earlier, so prices would not have gone so high and seeped as much into the prices of everything. One could also make a case that a Ukraine war would not have happened or would have been shorter but we don’t even need to go that far. Further, the disruption would have been less, meaning a somewhat faster return to “normalcy” for lack of a better term. I think it’s pretty clear that the Fed was slow to act and acknowledge that inflation wasn’t transitory, causing them to have to overreact, which also sent a few banks under. I absolutely don’t doubt that corporations have been taking advantage of the situation, but the causes of inflation were further upstream and policy decisions definitely had an impact. Unfortunately, The Guardian and likely a left leaning think tank are not the best sources. For instance, I won’t support my views on how to deal with climate change by citing a conservative source—I would cite someone like Lomborg or Schellenberger—clearly liberals but with a reasonable point of view.What do you base that thought that rates would not as high? Regardless, the current Fed and the current administration have nailed the soft landing.
Also, a lot of persistent inflation is coming from corporate profiteering:
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Half of recent US inflation due to high corporate profits, report finds
Thinktank report says ‘resounding evidence’ shows companies continue to keep prices high even as their inflationary costs dropwww.theguardian.com
All they have left to legitimately complain about is the border crisis. Biden has been working on a border deal for a year. Now that a bill that has republican votes is ready, trump doesn’t want the problem fixed because he want the crisis to continue for one more year, so that he can get elected.
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Lankford: Trump opposition to border deal due to ‘misinformation’
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) minimized the influence of former President Trump’s opposition to a Senate border deal, arguing that detractors will back the effort after they read the bill, though a…thehill.com
Congrats!All they have left to legitimately complain about is the border crisis. Biden has been working on a border deal for a year. Now that a bill that has republican votes is ready, trump doesn’t want the problem fixed because he want the crisis to continue for one more year, so that he can get elected.
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Lankford: Trump opposition to border deal due to ‘misinformation’
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) minimized the influence of former President Trump’s opposition to a Senate border deal, arguing that detractors will back the effort after they read the bill, though a…thehill.com
You can’t fix stupid bruh. MorrisAsh is beyond repaira deal isn't needed to fix the problem, just stop letting them in vs processing them.
Stop it. The border was under control without legislation. It took someone from outside Washington to solve it without the typical sausage making in Congress. It was actively reversed with no reasons given. No deal.All they have left to legitimately complain about is the border crisis. Biden has been working on a border deal for a year. Now that a bill that has republican votes is ready, trump doesn’t want the problem fixed because he want the crisis to continue for one more year, so that he can get elected.
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Lankford: Trump opposition to border deal due to ‘misinformation’
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) minimized the influence of former President Trump’s opposition to a Senate border deal, arguing that detractors will back the effort after they read the bill, though a…thehill.com
Stop it. The border was under control without legislation. It took someone from outside Washington to solve it without the typical sausage making in Congress. It was actively reversed with no reasons given. No deal.