When you say Miami is “not ready”? You mean they don’t have their financing apparatus in place to actually make a move? If so, I would agree that they probably have not planned the process through like FSU. FSU is not bluffing about heading out.
And the Big10 has been pursuing ND forever. AAU hasn’t ever meant a damn thing
Facts - you started the insults
Thank you
The BIG Fox/NBC/CBS contract is also not available to the public. Not unusual, these media companies will not want their privately negotiated agreements in the public domain, which is why the agreements are with a conference and not the individual schools, where the public ones have rules around making contracts publicly available.
Yes $ and planning wise
Well, the AAU thing has been a Big10 charade for so long you should probably excuse the idiot and a million other people who’ve heard that tall tale horseshit for decades.
Academics matter… sort of
You are a liar. I gave links with facts. You give hyperbole and opinion. Take your own advice. You go to ignore. Good luck with your your hapless life.
What you are saying is, actually they don’t matter except as perhaps the 16th tiebreaker.
Call others names
Ive never had property in Rumson but im flattered you think I have that kind of money
not sure why you lumped me in, I didn't discuss AAU nor have I made a proclamation to it. Since you asked however, FSU will be expected to get the AAU if invited
Was responding to piecemeal points from KS that somehow your rebuttals were intertwined
They are not buying them back from ESPN. The media deal is between the ACC and ESPN. The GOR is between FSU and the ACC. The conference therefore owns and controls the media rights revenue. If a school leaves, the GOR says they forfeit those future revenues for the balance of the GOR agreement term. That is what FSU is fighting to break. ESPN and the ACC can threaten all they want, but they will not let this get to court where are their dirty laundry gets exposed. It will be a settlement. Relatively quickly and for much less than sticker price
Exactly. The ACC GOR agreement is very unique in that it contains a unilateral out clause for ESPN after 2027. If ESPN walks (which they are now guaranteed to do so given the lawsuits), there is zero future media rights money after 2027. Yet the GOR itself is binding through 2036? Good luck with that one ACC. Further, my understanding is the out clause originally was 2021, but the ACC agreed to push it out to 2027 in secrecy w/o the consent of the member schools. The ACC has major problems here on many levels
This. Amazing it is so hard for people to understand. And this is only one angle they are pursuing
You can't. The conferences generally don't make them available for public record. They get around this by sending links to the the agreements and not the actual agreements themselves. Or in the ACC's case, hiding the master paper copy behind lock and key
the dynamics of realignment are always changing. It gets annoying when people keep arguing points repeatedly from years ago that have been debunked over and over now. If you don't know something, don't keep saying it. It's annoying to people who actually follow this stuff and are knowledgeable
Agree. Nebraska as an example was added when the BIG needed 1 more team for a championship game. Way different situation/world then. Their AAU status at the time was just one more thing in their favor, however minor.
I have to get you partial credit for persistence. I already stated how I feel about FSU tactics & why I don’t want them in the conference.
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Free Shoes lol. Gota admit, when Shiny Pants made that reference years ago I never thought it'd still be a thing. Too bad he never won in Doak and can't hold Bobby's jock, but it's cute nonetheless.I have to get you partial credit for persistence. I already stated how I feel about FSU tactics & why I don’t want them in the conference.
I asked you to visit some of the other schools in the ACC. Have you? See FSU only thinks about themselves. Have you ever thought about how this affects them? Of course you didn’t, nor has anyone at Free Shoes.
I challenge you to go here and state your case.
It looks like FSU is voting to challenge the GOR tomorrow
One last question Jay, what happens if/when this is all settled and Free Shoes U has no ties. What happens if they never get the magical invite to the B1G or SEC because schools like Rutgers, Indiana, Purdue, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt & Florida all vote against them. 😂 I would love it but the golden parachute you all dream of. Could get blown away by the endless greed they show.
ESPN will decline the option. If they do any deal, it will be for less money given the loss of FSU and likely others too
This is one of the dumbest posts in a thread full of bad takes. FSU will be in the B1G. Guaranteed. And why would FSU worry about the other schools. Where in realignment to date has that been a motivator? Clueless take.I have to get you partial credit for persistence. I already stated how I feel about FSU tactics & why I don’t want them in the conference.
I asked you to visit some of the other schools in the ACC. Have you? See FSU only thinks about themselves. Have you ever thought about how this affects them? Of course you didn’t, nor has anyone at Free Shoes.
I challenge you to go here and state your case.
It looks like FSU is voting to challenge the GOR tomorrow
One last question Jay, what happens if/when this is all settled and Free Shoes U has no ties. What happens if they never get the magical invite to the B1G or SEC because schools like Rutgers, Indiana, Purdue, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt & Florida all vote against them. 😂 I would love it but the golden parachute you all dream of. Could get blown away by the endless greed they show.
Whether he won there or not is irrelevant because Steve was doing what Steve did best keeping his donors happy. Imagine how a young Spurrier could have been dominate in today’s NIL world.
They’re guaranteed nothing. Damn for a Rutgers board some of you really have no interest whatsoever in helping this school. Them coming here hurts RU period
Of course but my point is how does the ACC get that across in a legal setting. I guess we will see in ~20 days. "We are getting severely damaged by letting FSU out for cheap now because other teams might then leave too at some point in the future and because our TV partner might not execute an option in the future. And if they don't we might not be able to get a similar payout from other providers."
No doubt SOS would have killed it in today's NIL world
How many sports does FSU currently have? Add men's and women's lax at once, that'd be 2 sports immediately.
I sort of agree with this, IF the money is right for FSU and another school. Is that a given ?
It matters...to a degree. I think B1G presidents like to have the illusion of the conference having like a private, selective country club where schools have at least some semblance of an academic standard. FSU would likely get AAU status anyway within the next few years and they have a respectable US News ranking so it's not like they're holding their noses and adding an academic dog like a West Virginia or something.
