I doubt the Big Ten wants any part of the legal liability FSU would bring in breaking their GOR with the ACC.
OT: B1G additions
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I doubt the Big Ten wants any part of the legal liability FSU would bring in breaking their GOR with the ACC.
New markets. The B1G already has California.. secondary note; basketball is better.
it's coming
but my view is that UNC is the linchpin here. If they join, it's over as the flood gates open and then it's how does the BIG look on the uniform.
Big Ten payouts are not at the $100 million level per school until 2030 at the earliest.
I'm assuming Carolina is waiting for the lawsuit to be over to make a move (being they're the ACC's baby)?
I could be way off, but it's hard to see them vs. the ACC in this thing
Okay it’s a dumb decision to waste $750M dollars to get a fraction of the money you could have made by staying. But I have no dog in this fight other than find it humorous
"California" isn't a market. Los Angeles is a market. San Francisco is a market. San Diego is a market. Seattle is a market. And historically, nothing is better than Stanford's athletics department.
We killing it right now w/the partly ACC money
Imagine when we get that B1G piece of the pie
I'm sure the powers that be have discussed the pros and cons and have run numbers we're not privy to
It's either Big Ten or SEC.
I doubt FSU is doing all this to join the Big 12 or MWC.
Supposedly they have a spot in the B1G once things get straightened out
that's my point
if they move, it's over and would be best if FSU was working the phones to tell them and others that they opened the fight, pick a side or you'll have less say/power/choices etc..
now it's in every school's best interest to think about tomorrow. I said last year the ACC should have ben proactive and worked something out with FSU and then went after the best remaining schools for a nation scope.
now the ACC is going to die and I couldn't be happier. Watching Fredo and Sarah in AAC will be great
What do you mean "get a fraction of the money you could have made by staying"?
Are you suggesting that if they left the ACC, FSU would make less in a new conference?
Lol you think I'm just making this up? FSU/Duke/GT to B1G has been in discussion for over a decade now and FSU/Clemson/GT leaving the ACC almost occurred back in 2012 after Maryland happened. Mizzou did as well but their own leadership leaked and got rejected outright. Oklahoma was also talking to the B1G at one point but ended up going to SEC instead due to academics, but from more recent chatter the conference regretted it and are now open to FSU because of losing out on Texas. I've just been paying attention to all this conference expansion talk for decades and don't forget so easily. The B1G has been a super predator for awhile now and are always in discussion, and due to that people talk.
Mark my words, FSU will be out of the ACC well before then
They simply cannot afford to stay much longer
If you wish to compete at a high level, and not just in football, you cannot be 40-50 million dollars per year behind your peers (unless, apparently, you're SMU)
A) I don’t think they are going anywhere
B) Even if they waste a ton of money to do so. The B1G isn’t going to give them full share until the next contract when they name and brand is used to help negotiate the deal.
C) FSU is coming off as a bigger bunch of spoiled brats than even Texas.
• Add up all the cost …
lawyers $$
whatever the cost to buy their way out of ACC. $$$$
•All the cost to add sports teams
Scholarships $$
Coaching $$
Facilities $$
Travel increase $$
With a reduced payment from either B1G or SEC
Verse saving all that money and just waiting until 2027 and collecting the full share even though it’s less. Is a better financial option to me.
I do give a rats ass what they do? Nah but if anyone thinks adding them to our conference is a good idea. I don’t know what to tell you. How long after they’re in a different conference until they start whining again about wanting a big slice of the pie? My interest is Rutgers University not Free Shoes University. God Spurrier was awesome back in the day.
I don't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of the GORs contact only being available at the ACC HQ in NC. Isn't it SOP for these conferences to keep the signed TV contracts at the conference HQs and not have any copies at the schools, so it's not subject to FOIA/OPRA requests, among other reasons? FSU administration seems to be incompetent for signing this deal.
BTW, the ACC sued FSU first yesterday:
BTW, the ACC sued FSU first yesterday:
Let me ask you this... what would we (Rutgers) do if this was happening to us?
Multiple natty's and Heisman's
Top 10 brand in college FB
Sold a bill of goods by the ACC and Swofford
If they're smart, they'd do what they needed to do to get the F out of the league, into another league and continuing competing at an elite level
I'd prefer this be done behind the scenes - I don't like things out in the open
But if you worked as hard as they did to build their program, and you could see it come crashing down right before your eyes...chances are you'd be doing the same thing
Amazing they've finally provided it instead of having it locked away at ACCHQ
Nothing these scumbags do surprises me
Likewise, they shouldn't be surprised when we lay 50 on a regular next year on the leetches
Yea that part of the GOR has been public for years. There are additional clauses and amendments which are not available for view.
I doubt FSU attorneys would have to make repeated visits to ACC headquarters to view that document. If they did then this case will be over before it starts.
What's odd? I don't think any B1G school has the TV contracts either. It seems like SOP for the conferences to have the only doc so schools don't have to disclose them in FOIA/OPRA requests.
Two growing states > Bay Area market that is diminishing. Athletic departments (Olympic sports, etc) are secondary to football, with basketball a distant second. Heck, FSU isn’t even AAU nor does it have the required number of sports and apparently they are being considered by the B1G. It’s all about football and $$$. Also, although UNC and UVA are not quite Stanford academically (hardly any schools are), they do stack up quite nicely.
already discussed, try and keep up or just read along with the adults
