Assuming you're in a mix area, here's what I kind of posted earlier, but summarized better (just posted elsewhere)...Is it better to clear the driveway now or later?
Bac - Is this it? It's a glorified dusting. Serious underperformance. Just another swing and miss forecast!Depends if you have salt to melt any freezing rain that falls
Snow pack getting more dense here but its very light freezing rain so we arent talking about huge ice accrual
Bac - Is this it? It's a glorified dusting. Serious underperformance.
Yes, schools closed probably due to timing and possible icy conditions. As for the snow, perhaps not a full bust, but I give the ranking of:Yup no big deal in our area..did schools end up closing
But definitely icing on non treated cleared surfaces
Well, we flipped to freezing rain a little while ago, but it did sleet pretty decently for 30-45 minutes, which put down 0.1" of sleet before the ZR, so our final total for the storm is 2.4", which is a bit of a bust vs. the NWS advisory for 3-5" and my prediction of 3.2", but still a nice storm if you like snow and it'll be around to enjoy for at least a week and might even be topped off on Friday. I recall being excited, but a bit skeptical when the NWS bumped up their forecast yesterday afternoon; in hindsight their 2-4" forecast for 95 and most of CNJ/NNJ would've been better.Of course that band is sleet, damn - best looking band of the storm lost to sleet. The dual pol looked like it and verified. Final (I think) snow measurement as of 8:30 am was 2.3" and I cleared the board to measure the sleet (which does get added to the snow, although sleet is much more dense than snow - typically 1" of liquid translates to 3" of sleet and 10" of snow). Hopefully the freezing rain holds off for awhile, although the temp has jumped up to 28F...
Agree. According to the hi-res models we reach our high temp in about 2 hours, and then we start sliding down. THere will be plenty of moisture on the roads still.The story is less about snow and more a case of watch out for ice due to freezing rain and then hard freeze tonight.
Agree. According to the hi-res models we reach our high temp in about 2 hours, and then we start sliding down. THere will be plenty of moisture on the roads still.
Less than 1 inch on the Wall Brick border, with rain washing snow away off paved surfaces. Mostly gone now on roads/pavement.Can't see Hillsborough getting 3 to 4.
Score a huge win for the NAM and the RGEM the two major mesoscale/regional models, as both models have been calling for significant freezing rain (ZR) since Sunday morning and generally weren't joined by the global models in predicting appreciable ZR until Monday morning or afternoon.NAM and RGEM have consistently shown that freezing rain risk after about 9 am or so, but the globals either have all snow for 95 or a later changover to sleet or freezing rain. Agree we don't want freezing rain, as it's dangerous and aesthetically unpleasing. Saving grace could be that it'll mostly be falling on top of snow, forming a crust and not falling on bare ground forming ice rinks. Here's the difference between the NAM and Euro on freezing rain (ZR), which is substantial. If the NAM verified, that's 1-2" of snowfall lost to ZR and a risk of serious icing. Let's hope it's wrong.
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Hooray, they did it!New York City
- Central Park in Manhattan: 1.4 inches
- Midwood in Brooklyn: 1.7 inches
- Whitestone in Queens: 2.2 inches
- Howard Beach in Queens: 2 inches
- Little Neck in Queens: 1.8 inches
- JFK Airport in Queens: 1.7 inches
- LaGuardia Airport in Queens: 1.6 inches
except they were off big time on snow amounts as they called for 3-5 inches so dont give them too much applauseScore a huge win for the NAM and the RGEM the two major mesoscale/regional models, as both models have been calling for significant freezing rain (ZR) since Sunday morning and generally weren't joined by the global models in predicting appreciable ZR until Monday morning or afternoon.
May have to upgrade this storm to 3/4 bust. Weak numbers....Bergen County...
Oakland 1.5 in 0800 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Montvale 1.8 ESE 1.2 in 0800 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Fair Lawn 1.1 in 0717 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Tenafly 1.1 in 0730 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
...Essex County...
Montclair 1.2 in 0800 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
...Hudson County...
Jersey City 1.5 in 0845 AM 01/16 Public
Harrison 1.0 in 0700 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
...Passaic County...
West Milford 1.7 in 0700 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Hawthorne 1.4 in 0700 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Little Falls 1.3 in 0700 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Wayne 1.2 in 0700 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
...Union County...
Clark 1.7 in 0739 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Newark Airport 1.7 in 0700 AM 01/16 Official NWS Obs
New Providence 1.1 in 0730 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Westfield 1.0 in 0745 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
Westfield 0.8 WSW 1.0 in 0700 AM 01/16 COCORAHS
reports say you got 3Less than 1 inch on the Wall Brick border, with rain washing snow away off paved surfaces. Mostly gone now on roads/pavement.
Might need to recalibrate that ruler with 3" or more reported near you...Less than 1 inch on the Wall Brick border, with rain washing snow away off paved surfaces. Mostly gone now on roads/pavement.
I just saw in the Asbury Park Press Wall got 3.4. Think the first 2 inches of that ruler were snapped off. 🤷♂️reports say you got 3
My rain gauge says 1/2" . 😜Might need to recalibrate that ruler with 3" or more reported near you...
Well, can't get it all right, but they did nail the freezing rain for days, which is impressive. It also seems like in many storms the NWS and many others discount the models showing changeovers to sleet, freezing rain and rain and I'm not sure why.except they were off big time on snow amounts as they called for 3-5 inches so dont give them too much applause
they did get the freezing rain aspect correctly but why were the mets so dismissive of freezing rain potential, its not like these situations have not been uncommon the last 20 years.
Yeah, if you don't measure soon after a changeover, especially to liquid precip, the snow will compact very quickly, which is what I assume happened in your case.I just saw in the Asbury Park Press Wall got 3.4. Think the first 2 inches of that ruler were snapped off. 🤷♂️
"Top totals in Monmouth County were in the two to four inch range, with the highest being 3.4 inches in Wall, 3 inches in Howell and 2.9 inches in Freehold, according to the National Weather Service. Ocean County saw between one to three inches, with 3 inches in Lanoka Harbour, and 2.5 inches in Brick being the highest reports as of Tuesday morning."
My rain gauge says 1/2" . 😜
I did not stay up all night measuring the snow at the height before it changed to rain, but perhaps? Glad most of it is washing away with the steady rain.
careful though because that 3.4 amounts was taken from the PUBLIC, not a trained spotterYeah, if you don't measure soon after a changeover, especially to liquid precip, the snow will compact very quickly, which is what I assume happened in your case.
To be fair, we’re talking about a trace to 0.05” of ice accretion (not including sleet). There was always the chance of a sleet and minor ZR mix. The NAM was showing over 0.30” of ice last night for 95 corridor which is still a bogus solution as that would be a catastrophic outcome (and something our area almost never sees due to proximity to the ocean).except they were off big time on snow amounts as they called for 3-5 inches so dont give them too much applause
they did get the freezing rain aspect correctly but why were the mets so dismissive of freezing rain potential, its not like these situations have not been uncommon the last 20 years.
Where exactly are you? I manage Unionville Vineyards and am venturing over there in a couple hours unless the back roads are iced up.To be fair, we’re talking about a trace to 0.05” of ice accretion (not including sleet). There was always the chance of a sleet and minor ZR mix. The NAM was showing over 0.30” of ice last night for 95 corridor which is still a bogus solution as that would be a catastrophic outcome (and something our area almost never sees due to proximity to the ocean).
Here in Southern Hunterdon we have 1.25” on the ground and a very slight sleet zr crust on top. Light sleet at the moment.
Ringoes, took dog for a walk an hour ago and traversed a county and side roads and all were down to slush. But take every precaution you need, temps are in 20s.Where exactly are you? I manage Unionville Vineyards and am venturing over there in a couple hours unless the back roads are iced up.
Seems to me they’ve screw up the duration of the precipitation the last couple mixed precipitation storms.Yeah, if you don't measure soon after a changeover, especially to liquid precip, the snow will compact very quickly, which is what I assume happened in your case.
Union Hotel project?Also in Southern Hunterdon and I'd say we got 1.5-2 at most. Storm last week was certainly more. Drove for a few minutes and main roads were fine and even my street was but that a couple of hours ago.
Some nice restaurant news for Flemington today as well.
Yeah David Burke is overseeing 3 different concepts that will share 1 liquor license. At least there will finally be somewhere to get a glass of wine downtown. That said, viva la rooster!Union Hotel project?
Sucks...we've been talking about not shoveling for the last day or so, given that risk; I'll be shoveling in the next 2 hours or so as it's just about over for me with models showing <0.1" of precip left to fall and we're likely to have the freezing rain change back to sleet and then snow before ending around 4 pm. Temp up to 30F, but not forecast to go above 32F (just up to 31F). Of course, shoveling then salting will likely prevent icing, but not everyone has salt.I made a big mistake by shoveling earlier. 28 degrees here and frozen rain now. I figured it would be all snow today...even my weather app says it snowing but it's wrong. I threw down some salt since it's slippery now.