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OT: Minor to Moderate Snow Possible on Monday, 1/6 (uncertainty high); also 1-2" Fri, 1/3 Philly to AC and SW of there

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Looks like a bust for CNJ. Can we make it official now? Another weather thread that was a complete waste of time.

Not for those down south. And I've been able to keep Tyler in the loop plus some friends in the DC and Richmond areas.

I have about a dozen coffees in my pantry, some are the expensive stuff but I like to have some cheaper stuff at times as well.

Life's too short to drink cheap coffee! which is why I have whole bean and a coffee grinder.

But you can do better than Prego with jar sauce.

I know, geeze, why would you get Prego when you can get Ragu?

Any updates on this storm?

What do you think this is, a weather thread? Oh, wait.....
 
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Not for those down south. And I've been able to keep Tyler in the loop plus some friends in the DC and Richmond areas.



Life's too short to drink cheap coffee! which is why I have whole bean and a coffee grinder.



I know, geeze, why would you get Prego when you can get Ragu?



What do you think this is, a weather thread? Oh, wait.....
when you go through as much coffee as I do in a day you pick and choose your battles and save your best coffee for those special moments
 
Not for those down south. And I've been able to keep Tyler in the loop plus some friends in the DC and Richmond areas.



Life's too short to drink cheap coffee! which is why I have whole bean and a coffee grinder.



I know, geeze, why would you get Prego when you can get Ragu?



What do you think this is, a weather thread? Oh, wait.....
Sorry Spanky, but there is a reason that Prego is on sale all the time - it sucks! You can always get a higher end jar sauce on sale if you are interested.
 
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Updated NWS snow map and discussion below; note that accumulating snow is likely to start before dawn for Philly/SNJ and a couple of hours later in CNJ and is expected to be over by mid-afternoon. Untreated roads will be slick with temps <32F.

NWS updated 4 pm snowfall map is out and it cuts snowfall back just a bit vs. the 4 am package which did look a bit overdone, with the 1" line moving from about 80 to just N of 78 with only 1/2"-1" N of 78, including NENJ and NYC/LI. This also means CNJ is in the 1-2" range for the most part with the 2" line a little N of 276/195 and with the 3" line from just north of Philly to about Toms River, while the 4" line goes from just south of Philly to LBI. The forecast is for 4-6" south of there and then 6-8" south of a Wilmington to AC line. Looks like my 1.5" prediction for Metuchen is solid.

No warning/advisory changes. And bust potential has decreased, given the decrease in snowfall forecast by the NWS and increases in snowfall from the global models at 12Z and 18Z, so far, such that the globals are much closer to the still a bit snowier mesoscale/CAM models like the RAP/HRRR. However, <1" is still possible for CNJ, as is 2-4" if the storm under/overperforms and there are +/- 1-2" risks for SEPA/SNJ depending on how the storm performs. Almost radar time.

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18Z models aren't showing much new and given how close we are to the event, I'm not expecting the NWS or most other forecasters to make any significant forecast changes. NWS did post an updated regional map finally, below.

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Put me in the camp of loving when you guys alert us of possible huge storms 7-10 days out. It’s fun in the dark days of winter and I am supposed to travel next weekend. I appreciate the heads up to a possible big storm even if it ends up not happening
See the pattern thread - just made a long post looking ahead at the potential for next weekend...
 
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Murphy doing Murphy things. Saw 287 getting brined north of 80. Complete waste of our money.
I doubt Murphy makes that decision, but it's still pretty dumb. Can't see brining anything south of 78 as even if a major highway gets 1-2" of snow over several hours (very unlikely along/N of 78), they can salt it in real time, plus, usually traffic is enough to prevent accumulation on heavily traveled highways when snowfall rates are fairly low.
 
Not sure what your geography issue is here - looks like he named all of SNJ and all of those counties have winter storm warnings, unless you're miffed he didn't include Ocean (which only got an advisory).
Maybe it got lost, but my post was in reply to the roads being brined north our Route 80. That makes no sense, but that is not unique to this Gov. Our local Shop Rite Manasquan/Wall was mobbed today with the milk, bread, eggs mania, when we are due to get 3" at most--now I did it, I jinxed it. BTW, the Allaire Disc Golf course looked pretty empty today when I rode through on my mountain bike.
 
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Eating Prego sounds like torture.
Can't wait for Monty's Whole Food to open. The building just went vertical, so likely by the end of 2025.
We got a WF about 5 years ago in Metuchen and while it's great for some things, I'd way rather have a Wegman's, but the footprint supposedly wasn't enough for that. WF has great produce and some very nice specialty foods, meats, and seafood, it completely lacks all of the major food brands and fun stuff that they deem "not healthy" enough (like Cap'n Crunch, Pop-Tarts, Cheeze-its, good potato chips, most sodas, Stove Top Stuffing, etc., as examples), yet they sell novelty brands or their brand of many of those things that have the same ingredients, so it's a bit hypocritical. Wegman's sells all of those things, has great produce and has much better prepared foods, so half the time I still go an extra 5 minutes each way to go there.
 
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We got a WF about 5 years ago in Metuchen and while it's great for some things, I'd way rather have a Wegman's, but the footprint supposedly wasn't enough for that. WF has great produce and some very nice specialty foods, meats, and seafood, it completely lacks all of the major food brands and fun stuff that they deem "not healthy" enough (like Cap'n Crunch, Pop-Tarts, Cheeze-its, good potato chips, most sodas, Stove Top Stuffing, etc., as examples), yet they sell novelty brands or their brand of many of those things that have the same ingredients, so it's a bit hypocritical. Wegman's sells all of those things, has great produce and has much better prepared foods, so half the time I still go an extra 5 minutes each way to go there.
Woodbridge not close enough for you for Wegman's? We became huge Wegman's fans when we lived in Corning, NY are in the late 1990s before Wegman's expanded into NJ. We have to travel all the way to Ocean Twp to get to the closest one.
 
Woodbridge not close enough for you for Wegman's? We became huge Wegman's fans when we lived in Corning, NY are in the late 1990s before Wegman's expanded into NJ. We have to travel all the way to Ocean Twp to get to the closest one.
Yes, that's the Wegman's I was referring to. Takes ~10 minutes to get there most of the time vs. 2-3 minutes to get to WF, so it's 10-15 minutes extra per round trip and I sometimes don't want to do that - so when we need a fix for regular food and are short on time, we'll got to ShopRite in Edison which is 5 minutes away - and sometimes we'll go there, just for their fried chicken, plus they have my wife's Soy Milk and my Hawaiian Punch that WF doesn't.
 
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We got a WF about 5 years ago in Metuchen and while it's great for some things, I'd way rather have a Wegman's, but the footprint supposedly wasn't enough for that. WF has great produce and some very nice specialty foods, meats, and seafood, it completely lacks all of the major food brands and fun stuff that they deem "not healthy" enough (like Cap'n Crunch, Pop-Tarts, Cheeze-its, good potato chips, most sodas, Stove Top Stuffing, etc., as examples), yet they sell novelty brands or their brand of many of those things that have the same ingredients, so it's a bit hypocritical. Wegman's sells all of those things, has great produce and has much better prepared foods, so half the time I still go an extra 5 minutes each way to go there.
Wegman's is a BIG f'ing store. They normally require 80-100k sq ft, which is bigger than a modern World Class Shoprite. WF is normally 60k'ish, but that can vary depending on the market.

The complex in question, which was originally approved in 2007 with a Stop & Shop, really freaked out our local Shoprite owners. Once the GFC hit, Stop & Shop withdrew and I came on-board a few years later.

I pushed hard for WF for 2 reasons - we wanted to shrink the size of the complex and also we wanted a store that didn't directly compete with SR to calm down those owners (who have been very good corporate partners for the community). The demo's are perfect for WF and their regional management was good on coming to Monty. However, WF corporate couldn't get over the fact that it would be 8 miles as the bird flies from the West Windsor WF on Route 1. I even went to Austin with the developer to pitch execs the site. It made so much sense. They just didn't say yes.

It wasn't until AMZN bought WF when everything fell into place and they signed the lease. AMZN's grand vision for WF was 2-hour prime delivery, so they need the location not just for brick and mortar shopping, but also as a supply chain hub for prime.

Got everything fully approved in late 2018 and they stuck with the lease through COVID, so I am a big WF fan. LOL! We are an organic/fresh family for most things, so having a WF in town will be very convenient.
 
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We got a WF about 5 years ago in Metuchen and while it's great for some things, I'd way rather have a Wegman's, but the footprint supposedly wasn't enough for that. WF has great produce and some very nice specialty foods, meats, and seafood, it completely lacks all of the major food brands and fun stuff that they deem "not healthy" enough (like Cap'n Crunch, Pop-Tarts, Cheeze-its, good potato chips, most sodas, Stove Top Stuffing, etc., as examples), yet they sell novelty brands or their brand of many of those things that have the same ingredients, so it's a bit hypocritical. Wegman's sells all of those things, has great produce and has much better prepared foods, so half the time I still go an extra 5 minutes each way to go there.
Wegman's is one of the only things I miss about NJ 20 years later.
 
Got a Whole Foods in Wayne, they took over the old A&P site once A&P went under. Been to it twice, haven't bought a thing from there. Nothing worth it.
 
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If anyone is interested in a little synoptic meteorology, the twitter thread below from Tomer Burg (yeah that guy lol) explaining in great detail how the current storm came about, then blew up in the midwest is really well done.

 
18Z models aren't showing much new and given how close we are to the event, I'm not expecting the NWS or most other forecasters to make any significant forecast changes. NWS did post an updated regional map finally, below.

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Last NWS map before the event (well, it's started SW of Philly and S of LBI), below, with accumulations cut back a little bit again south of 276/195, although the same warnings/advisories remain in SEPA/SNJ, i.e., warnings for 3-6" for counties SW of Philly in SEPA (Delaware, eastern Chester) and warnings for most of SNJ (SE Burlington, Atlantic, Gloucester and Camden for 3-6" and Cape May, Cumberland, and Salem for 4-8"), while advisories are still up for 2-4" for Ocean, Philly, Montco and Lower Bucks.

The 2" line is along 276/195 and actually the 1" line was moved from 78 to midway between 78 and 80, so most of CNJ should expect 1-2" with the 1" amounts near 78 and the 2" amounts near 276/195; NENJ/NYC/LI are still forecast to get <1". However, getting <1" for most/all of CNJ is still possible and more than 2" is unlikely except near 276/195, so I'm a bit worried about reaching my 1.5" prediction for our house in Metuchen. Note that the snow should be over by 2-3 pm for CNJ, but anywhere that gets 1" or more will still have some slippery roads, as temps will be below 32F and the ground is very cold. Having said that it's doubtful there will be any issues near the RAC for the game.

Note that there are other forecasters like TWC and Dan Zarrow showing the 1" line from about New Hope to Sandy Hook with <1" north of there, while News12NJ and Channel 7, for example have forecasts very similar to the NWS.

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Last NWS map before the event (well, it's started SW of Philly and S of LBI), below, with accumulations cut back a little bit again south of 276/195, although the same warnings/advisories remain in SEPA/SNJ, i.e., warnings for 3-6" for counties SW of Philly in SEPA (Delaware, eastern Chester) and warnings for most of SNJ (SE Burlington, Atlantic, Gloucester and Camden for 3-6" and Cape May, Cumberland, and Salem for 4-8"), while advisories are still up for 2-4" for Ocean, Philly, Montco and Lower Bucks.

The 2" line is along 276/195 and actually the 1" line was moved from 78 to midway between 78 and 80, so most of CNJ should expect 1-2" with the 1" amounts near 78 and the 2" amounts near 276/195; NENJ/NYC/LI are still forecast to get <1". However, getting <1" for most/all of CNJ is still possible and more than 2" is unlikely except near 276/195, so I'm a bit worried about reaching my 1.5" prediction for our house in Metuchen. Note that the snow should be over by 2-3 pm for CNJ, but anywhere that gets 1" or more will still have some slippery roads, as temps will be below 32F and the ground is very cold. Having said that it's doubtful there will be any issues near the RAC for the game.

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Light snow in Blawenburg. Very pretty. No sausage discount at Blawenburg Bistro but our sausage egg and cheese on a cheddar scallion scone can't be beat.
Nothing up here yet. When you say "our" does that mean you're involved in the Blawenburg Bistro in some way? Place is on our list to visit, as we've heard very good things from friends and on-line reviews.
 
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