18z NAM is in and it is a bit further south with the track then previous runs. It keeps south jersey nearly all snow with little to no mixing issues. We'll be watching for dry slot potential as the storm battles dry air on Sunday
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So the 12Z models looked a smidgen less snowy than last night's 0Z models with a general 3-6" for the 95 corridor from Philly to NYC on most models and 2-3" NW of 95 and then either 1-2" or 4-6" at the coast, depending on if the model is seeing a big chunk of the precip as rain or not (a split there)...with the exception of the NAM, which is showing a 6-8" snowfall for just about everyone.
Big question for the NWS is whether this decrease is enough to convert the warnings to advisories or not, especially for Mercer/Monmouth and northward where the warning criterion is 6". It's 50/50 to me, since backing off sends a signal that it's a less impactful storm, and if only 4-5" falls in a warning area, the impact isn't that much different from 6", especially with temps below 32F at the start of the snow (by 6 am) and for most of the event, meaning the snow will accumulate easily on untreated paved surfaces. Plus, the models only have to be off by a little bit for the actual snowfall to reach 6" in those areas. For the 95 corridor SW of Trenton, I think they'll keep the warnings as the criterion is only 4" of snow. We'll see soon enough.
You won't like the latest NWS forecast for you - about 5" (Pt. Pleasant area, correct?). High bust potential, but that's what they have.Still much better than the initial reports, so I’ll take it.
Ok. 5 is the target. Local news was 3-6 this morning. I'll try to catch it at 6pm but watching golf. So I'll even go with anything under 4 here is a bust, and they still can't figure this area. Going to add Wilmington DE too. They are in the same path as Philly. Never get them right either.We have our answer. Not surprised they kept the warnings, as they now have essentially 4-6" for south of 276/195, which is still at the warning criterion (4" - and they added Ocean to the warning area) and 5-7" N of 276/195 in PA/NJ (except well NW), which is also at the warning criterion (6") and NWS-NYC went with 4-8" for NENJ/NYC metro, which again is right at the 6" criterion (and 6-9" for the eastern half of LI and coastal CT). They may end up being a little high, but for what they forecast, I agree with their warnings/advisories.
Hey @WhiteBus - this is the pre-event forecast I'd go with for "assessment" of how well the NWS does. They list Philly as 5" now, which seems reasonable (maybe an inch above consensus, but the pros see a lot more than the models). We'll see. Been thinking all along we'd get about 6" at my house, so I'll stick with that, which also happens to be what the NWS map shows.
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Scotch right next to it??My measuring board is cleaned off and set up for tomorrow!
Remember temps are not going to be all that cold for this event
HELL NO!!!Scotch right next to it??
I like how Toms River and Allaire are Northern New Jersey. That should fire up some folks in this thread.
I like how Toms River and Allaire are Northern New Jersey. That should fire up some folks in this thread.
But I thought there was no Central Jersey?Toms River is central or shore. There is no debate.
Snow should be over for you by about 3-4 pm, so plenty of time for cooking and a cigar - enjoy. We're doing low-tech, low-energy, tacky freezer delight for the game: pigs-n-blankets, mini-quiches, potato skins, dumplings, etc.Ok. 5 is the target. Local news was 3-6 this morning. I'll try to catch it at 6pm but watching golf. So I'll even go with anything under 4 here is a bust, and they still can't figure this area. Going to add Wilmington DE too. They are in the same path as Philly. Never get them right either.
Deep frying turkey tomorrow out back for turkey club sandwiches and will make some pomme frites. Fryer is undercover so no worries there but would like to enjoy a cigar at least.
I like how Toms River and Allaire are Northern New Jersey. That should fire up some folks in this thread.
Toms River is central or shore. There is no debate.
But I thought there was no Central Jersey?
Let the games begin................
Big bust guy. Love the bust. ( . )( . ) 👍You won't like the latest NWS forecast for you - about 5" (Pt. Pleasant area, correct?). High bust potential, but that's what they have.
What shore town are you at? I think @knightfan7 is the furthest south on this board in Ocean County Beach towns.Big bust guy. Love the bust. (.)(.) 👍
Tad north but in the wheelhouse I guess. @Knight Shift @knightfan7 and @koleszar are a little closer to there.
I like how Toms River and Allaire are Northern New Jersey. That should fire up some folks in this thread.
If we use ~ I-78 and ~195 as the dividing lines...Allaire is Central and *Toms River is South.Toms River is central or shore. There is no debate.
He is Manasquan and I'm in Spring Lake Heights. We are both in Monmouth.What shore town are you at? I think @knightfan7 is the furthest south on this board in Ocean County Beach towns.
I always use 539 (with Trenton on the "south" side) to 72, for separating "north" vs."south" as that divides things more along distance from Philly vs. NYC, which is really what separates north from south in NJ. And then for CNJ I go up to about 78.If we use ~ I-78 and ~195 as the dividing lines...Allaire is Central and *Toms River is South.
* That south into Ocean and you are on South Jersey.
If we use ~ I-78 and ~195 as the dividing lines...Allaire is Central and *Toms River is South.
* That south into Ocean and you are on South Jersey.
I always use 539 (with Trenton on the "south" side) to 72, for separating "north" vs."south" as that divides things more along distance from Philly vs. NYC, which is really what separates north from south in NJ. And then for CNJ I go up to about 78.
Actually I know he is in Squan. I've been trying to get him and @Source to meet up at Leggetts for years. I was saying I dont know if any posters are along the beach towns in Ocean County.He is Manasquan and I'm in Spring Lake Heights. We are both in Monmouth.
UPS loves me more than him and @Knight Shift when it comes to our Season Tickets delivery schedule. 😎
Minor difference, but I'd say more like 3-5" for anyone near/along 95 and the entire area SE to the coast, with <3" only well N/W of 95, i.e., Sussex/Warren in NJ and the Poconos/Lehigh Valley in PA. The NAM is obviously more (4-7" for most), as is the HRDPS (3-6" for most), while the RGEM is 3-5" for most.18z gfs was 2-5 inches
Local news went up to 4-6 so under 4 is a confirmed a whiff.Ok. 5 is the target. Local news was 3-6 this morning. I'll try to catch it at 6pm but watching golf. So I'll even go with anything under 4 here is a bust, and they still can't figure this area. Going to add Wilmington DE too. They are in the same path as Philly. Never get them right either.
Deep frying turkey tomorrow out back for turkey club sandwiches and will make some pomme frites. Fryer is undercover so no worries there but would like to enjoy a cigar at least.
If we use ~ I-78 and ~195 as the dividing lines...Allaire is Central and *Toms River is South.
* That south into Ocean and you are on South Jersey.
Law professor is smartI've been to Toms River and my impression is that it's Yankees/ Giants country. That makes it central Jersey . By comparison, Long Beach Island not far to the southis Philies/Eagles country.
NWS now has everyone at the coast from Asbury Park down to Toms River at 3-5" of snow (and 3-7" of snow from AP to Sandy Hook) with amounts decreasing from there to LBI down to 1-2" and 1" or less from AC to Cape May, but with amounts climbing rapidly to 2-4" just 10 miles NW of AC in Mays Landing. But as I said bust potential due to rain is very high anywhere within a few miles of the coast, especially south of about Asbury Park.He is Manasquan and I'm in Spring Lake Heights. We are both in Monmouth.
UPS loves me more than him and @Knight Shift when it comes to our Season Tickets delivery schedule. 😎
Just a mild nuisance storm.18z gfs was 2-5 inches
He is Manasquan and I'm in Spring Lake Heights. We are both in Monmouth.
UPS loves me more than him and @Knight Shift when it comes to our Season Tickets delivery schedule. 😎
Actually I know he is in Squan. I've been trying to get him and @Source to meet up at Leggetts for years. I was saying I dont know if any posters are along the beach towns in Ocean County.
Yes. Until cable Ocean County was solidly NY stations. NY Press. Never saw a Philly paper in Ocean County. When cable came around some of the western parts got both NY and Philly local channels. Now Tom's River has both too.I've been to Toms River and my impression is that it's Yankees/ Giants country. That makes it central Jersey . By comparison, Long Beach Island not far to the southis Philies/Eagles country.
The State is about 170 miles long so if you are using the 3 markers of north, central and south that makes Tuckerton and below south, Manahawkin to Middletown central and above that north. That is pure geography. Culturally it is an entirely different definition.If we use ~ I-78 and ~195 as the dividing lines...Allaire is Central and *Toms River is South.
* That south into Ocean and you are on South Jersey.