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OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders

Josh Bailey is on waivers for the Blackhawks.

Rangers made a nice pick with Yannick's kid.

Arizona is having a great draft. I think that goalie will be a stud.
 
At the Devils quiet draft we have our first selection, at pick 59 we took RW Lenni Hameenaho. He is listed at 6ft. 1 in. 185lbs.

If it all comes together think Jay Pandolfo. Seems like a good 2-way middle 6 forward. However his skating needs work, which really concerns me given our system.

Pando was a sniper in college

99% chance this guy never sniffs the nhl
 
Pando was a sniper in college

99% chance this guy never sniffs the nhl
I wouldn't go that high a %. This guy outscored (sp.) Kotomemi in that league. The example was because I see him as 3rd line 2-way player. The shot is good, the skating needs work. Penalty kill specialist.

With our system I see him struggling like Holtz and think he eventually gets traded.

After the goalie run, I'm surprised we didn't take a Center.
 
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At the Devils quiet draft we have our first selection, at pick 59 we took RW Lenni Hameenaho. He is listed at 6ft. 1 in. 185lbs.

If it all comes together think Jay Pandolfo. Seems like a good 2-way middle 6 forward. However his skating needs work, which really concerns me given our system.
Ya, don't love drafting a guy with skating concerns. We are a fast team in a league that keeps getting faster.

Hopefully the concerns are overblown. His production on a bad Liiga team look pretty decent.
 
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Ya, don't love drafting a guy with skating concerns. We are a fast team in a league that keeps getting faster.

Hopefully the concerns are overblown. His production on a bad Liiga team look pretty decent.
LOL, maybe if he was 6ft 5in 250 pounds.
 
I wouldn't go that high a %. This guy outscored (sp.) Kotomemi in that league. The example was because I see him as 3rd line 2-way player. The shot is good, the skating needs work. Penalty kill specialist.

With our system I see him struggling like Holtz and think he eventually gets traded.

After the goalie run, I'm surprised we didn't take a Center.
Awful pick
 
Nice draft by the Flyers. Matteo Mann is a beast I wanted the Devils to take.
 
But for how long? Anything longer then 4 years is asking for trouble.
The window is wide open for the devils and they have the ability to add a top 3 goalie today. I’d give him 7 x 7 if I had to. All I hear is the cap and how 3 years from now luke and nemec gonna need new deals . Those guys have played less than 5 games combined . We don’t even know their capabilities. Go win this season and compete for the next 3. That’s all that matters
 
Subpar draft for the Devils, think we could have done better with our 2nd round pick.

Flyers kicked ass, had a gift fall to them at #7.

They need to break up the Metropolitan because it's getting ridiculous.
 
Right. The Squirls guy is highly skilled but too small. Listed as 6 160, he looks like 5 10 130. Lately they have gotten away from the lollipop guild and drafted OK.
Time will tell if he's too small. Or too slow, or not skilled enough. Or if he's none of those things and turns into a good NHL player.

And he's the only one of the group who could be considered small, and he's 6'.
 
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The window is wide open for the devils and they have the ability to add a top 3 goalie today. I’d give him 7 x 7 if I had to. All I hear is the cap and how 3 years from now luke and nemec gonna need new deals . Those guys have played less than 5 games combined . We don’t even know their capabilities. Go win this season and compete for the next 3. That’s all that matters
Nah the entirety of the contract matters. We saw first hand how paying a long term contract to an older goalie can handcuff a team. That contract is still effecting our cap space. And he was younger at the time of signing that deal then Helle will be.
 
Subpar draft for the Devils, think we could have done better with our 2nd round pick.

Flyers kicked ass, had a gift fall to them at #7.

They need to break up the Metropolitan because it's getting ridiculous.
The teams that have struggled recently in the East are all improving, but I think Washington, Pittsburgh, Boston and Tampa don’t have much time left where they are a factor.
 
The teams that have struggled recently in the East are all improving, but I think Washington, Pittsburgh, Boston and Tampa don’t have much time left where they are a factor.
Ya, and as we saw with Dev's, rebuilds for teams like the Flyers may take longer then expected.
 
Time will tell if he's too small. Or too slow, or not skilled enough. Or if he's none of those things and turns into a good NHL player.

And he's the only one of the group who could be considered small, and he's 6'.
True, with Sqirels it's his weight. While listed at 160, his profile at the draft, looked like 130. The Devils Head Scout kept saying in interviews, he needs strength.

As always when I feel negative, I hope I'm wrong. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if no one in this draft class plays for the Devils. Oh and I hate typing that.
 
True, with Sqirels it's his weight. While listed at 160, his profile at the draft, looked like 130. The Devils Head Scout kept saying in interviews, he needs strength.

As always when I feel negative, I hope I'm wrong. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if no one in this draft class plays for the Devils. Oh and I hate typing that.

Terrible draft overall for NJD

The Minnesota kid maybe a steal though
 
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True, with Sqirels it's his weight. While listed at 160, his profile at the draft, looked like 130. The Devils Head Scout kept saying in interviews, he needs strength.

As always when I feel negative, I hope I'm wrong. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if no one in this draft class plays for the Devils. Oh and I hate typing that.
You don't like the monster d-men drafted late?

And I like the idea of a talented kid putting on weight and getting stronger moreso then a big strong untalented kid developing skills.

Squires I think is probably more about if his skating is good enough.
 
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You don't like the monster d-men drafted late?

And I like the idea of a talented kid putting on weight and getting stronger moreso then a big strong untalented kid developing skills.

Squires I think is probably more about if his skating is good enough.
I do like that late pick. Again I hope I'm wrong. I just believe that there were some better prospects in rounds 2 and 4.

Yes there is great skills, 30 goals, but you need to be strong enough to stay healthy. I question whether his frame will support getting bigger. I would love to come back and say awful take by me. I'm rooting to be wrong.
 
Nah the entirety of the contract matters. We saw first hand how paying a long term contract to an older goalie can handcuff a team. That contract is still effecting our cap space. And he was younger at the time of signing that deal then Helle will be.
We were handcuffed bc Cory’s first 3 years were in front of terrible teams and Lou kept trying to patch holes when he should have burned it down and started the rebuild . He should have never traded for him in the first place . Good goalie on a bad team . Now we have a great team and a so-so goaltending with a chance to get a stud . 2 totally different scenarios
 
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We were handcuffed bc Cory’s first 3 years were in front of terrible teams and Lou kept trying to patch holes when he should have burned it down and started the rebuild . He should have never traded for him in the first place . Good goalie on a bad team . Now we have a great team and a so-so goaltending with a chance to get a stud . 2 totally different scenarios
The potential of a 30 something year old goalie breaking down is no different.
 
If the Jets don't get delusional after the Kings fleecing this could work. Getting Hellebucyk might get us the Cup this year. If reports are true about him wanting to be a Devil, he may accept a 3 to 5 year deal. Perhaps Fitz could even front load the contract, without the NHL screwing us ala Kovy.

There has been a gap between reported contract wants, and what the contract turns out to be. With Schmid, Daws, and Brennan we will be fine, even if he doesn't resign.

I've been hard on Fitz in the past, but I think he makes it work. As long as the Jets are responsible. Something like a '24 1st round pick and 3rd round pick, Vanacek, and Russian prospect Arseni Gritsyuk for Connor Hellebucyk.
 
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If the Jets don't get delusional after the Kings fleecing this could work. Getting Hellebucyk might get us the Cup this year. If reports are true about him wanting to be a Devil, he may accept a 3 to 5 year deal. Perhaps Fitz could even front load the contract, without the NHL screwing us ala Kovy.

There has been a gap between reported contract wants, and what the contract turns out to be. With Schmid, Daws, and Brennan we will be fine, even if he doesn't resign.

I've been hard on Fitz in the past, but I think he makes it work. As long as the Jets are responsible. Something like a '24 1st round pick and 3rd round pick, Vanacek, and Russian prospect Arseni Gritsyuk for Connor Hellebucyk.

Keep that Russian
 
Keep that Russian
Just a sample trade. I would like to keep that Russian, but you have to give quality to get quality, and I want to keep the H's, Hughes', and Hischier. As well as Mercer, Nemec, and Bahl, so I decided on that Russian.

Also I am tired of typing Holtz 😆. Some have him making the club this year, playing on the 3rd line.
 
The potential of a 30 something year old goalie breaking down is no
The potential to win a cup or 2 with Helle in net the next 3-4 years far out weighs any potential injury risk . They are already a top 3 team . With Helle in net they are the sure fire favorite
 
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If the Jets don't get delusional after the Kings fleecing this could work. Getting Hellebucyk might get us the Cup this year. If reports are true about him wanting to be a Devil, he may accept a 3 to 5 year deal. Perhaps Fitz could even front load the contract, without the NHL screwing us ala Kovy.

There has been a gap between reported contract wants, and what the contract turns out to be. With Schmid, Daws, and Brennan we will be fine, even if he doesn't resign.

I've been hard on Fitz in the past, but I think he makes it work. As long as the Jets are responsible. Something like a '24 1st round pick and 3rd round pick, Vanacek, and Russian prospect Arseni Gritsyuk for Connor Hellebucyk.
Get him here as a one year rental for now bc it would cost less . Vanecek , future first and a prospect . Colorado did it with Kuemper and it worked out pretty well for them.
 
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I think the Jets will insist on a first in any trade.

Now with the 3 young goalies I mentioned a couple of post ago, this deal likely would have long-term consequences. Even if only a year, having Connor in the system would be light years better than Vanacek and Blackwood. After all Connor is already a HOF today in many people's opinions.
 
Devils and Avs are supposedly on the top of Tyler Bertuzzi’s list. He recently became a UFA.

Get er done Tommy!!
 
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