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OT: Potential Significant to Major Winter Storm Saturday, 1/29/22 (but high uncertainty)

Very jealous - tried to convince the wife to head up to the Cape, but that got vetoed, lol...
No no.. heading to 10 mins north of NC SC border.
Just reacting to the Cape Cod forecast.
Don't ski anymore but still love we a good winter snow in party.
 
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Windy and sitting what felt like higher than the railing on a bike. Terror.
But at least on the bridge you were under cover from the rain! When you get to the top and looking back into Manhattan is spectacular.
 
So, the 12Z suite is complete and we still have no idea how much snow we're getting. The 12Z Euro and GFS moved a bit west/snowier vs. earlier, while the CMC/RDPS/UK moved a bit east/less snowy and the NAM was about the same. For the 95 corridor, if one takes a rough average, I'd guess a 3-6" snowfall forecast vs. the 4-8"on the maps. And I don't actually know if the NWS factors in snow/liquid ratios or not in their forecasts, but if they do, 3-6" would be more like 4-8" if we get a 13:1 ratio (expecting 12-15:1 snow/liquid ratios), given how cold it will be on Saturday (teens/low-mid 20s), which also means every flake accumulates even at midday.

But since the Euro moved back to a snowier solution (and the GFS even moved west vs. 0Z), my guess is the NWS-Philly will not change their forecasts much from 4 am, maybe lowering snowfall amounts a touch, like by 1" across the board (or not), depending on how they weight the models. I also don't think they'll go with warnings yet for the Philly-NJ 95 corridor, since the heaviest snow doesn't come until after midnight and there's time to issue warnings with the 4 am package tomorrow and by delaying they don't have to flip-flop on warnings to advisories or the other way around if the models change significantly at 0Z tonight. It is possible they go to warnings for the NJ coastal counties, where confidence is greater in 5-6". For the NWS-NYC, I would think they'll go to watches for the NENJ counties, where there are no watches now, and keep the watches for NYC, but there's a high likelihood they issue warnings for LI/CT, which are most at risk of >6" snows.

Again, a very volatile/explosve setup with a very high ceiling and a very low floor. Brooklynwx99, a met on 33andrain said it well: "This is an absolutely dreadful storm to pin down. There is the interaction of the initial disturbance, the vorticity over the Dakotas, the orientation and speed of the Canada vort, and the press of the TPV (tropospheric polar vortex), and all of those determine the moment when the trough closes off. good luck trying to figure that out. models are going to hop back and forth until game time, and we'll probably still have surprises then."


One more thing to watch for tomorrow: several models are showing a 1/2" or so of snow tomorrow afternoon, before the main event - not a big deal with borderline temps (low 30s), but something to watch out for.

It always comes down to the mesoscale Dakota Vorticity.
 
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But at least on the bridge you were under cover from the rain! When you get to the top and looking back into Manhattan is spectacular.
I was looking at nothing other than the 10 feet of road in front of me. (and the front wheel for signs of falling off and throwing me over the side). LOL
 
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You want a good laugh. Go to the NJ covid dashboard and look how they define cnj.
The NJ provinces are easily defined, geologically.

North Jersey has large rocks above ground level.
South Jersey has no rocks below ground level.
Central Jersey is what's in between. Generally speaking, it's everything south of the Watchungs but north of the Pine Barrens.
 
Did this thread become one about gephyrophobia? Here is a freaky one:

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Which is worse, driving on the bridge or the dam? I get vertigo just looking at the picture.
 
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One more post - 18Z Euro came in a little west and a little snowier with 6-8" for most of 95, 4-6" NW and 8-12" as one gets closer to the coast. And if this system somehow closes off a bit earlier and moves just a little bit more NW, those 12-15" swath could easily move 30-40 miles NW to the 95 corridor. The possibility of a major snowstorm for 95 (8"+) is increasing - and this isn't even accounting for ratios yet. Let's see about 0Z later...

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Close up map

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NADA. Totally enclosed with a sidewalk. More focused on pulling mirrors in and not hitting the side or another car. And low and slow.
I'm 63 and still go up on 20' + ladders and walk on the roof of my house. Hell, I've driven a motorcycle over the Verrazano and walked across the GWB. But this is a potential freak out.

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started an OT thread on same. also no way!
 
One more post - 18Z Euro came in a little west and a little snowier with 6-8" for most of 95, 4-6" NW and 8-12" as one gets closer to the coast. And if this system somehow closes off a bit earlier and moves just a little bit more NW, those 12-15" swath could easily move 30-40 miles NW to the 95 corridor. The possibility of a major snowstorm for 95 (8"+) is increasing - and this isn't even accounting for ratios yet. Let's see about 0Z later...

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Close up map

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almost exactly like the Mt Holly forecast map
 
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What time we talking about here?

Need to make a call on going to the Islanders game - Sat 2pm

I’m guessing going will be fine but getting back to NJ at 5-6pm Sat night?
 
What time we talking about here?

Need to make a call on going to the Islanders game - Sat 2pm

I’m guessing going will be fine but getting back to NJ at 5-6pm Sat night?
Hmmm, don’t know about that as it will be worse the further East you go. This is a late Friday into Saturday event unless I missed a change in timing.
 
What time we talking about here?

Need to make a call on going to the Islanders game - Sat 2pm

I’m guessing going will be fine but getting back to NJ at 5-6pm Sat night?
Weather Undergound shows snow stopping on Saturday at noon.
 
almost exactly like the Mt Holly forecast map
At of 5:48 p.m.from NWS. Let's see how this plays out. I guess Middlesex County has no predictions? 🤷‍♂️

See projected inch counts for your area below.

Bergen County​

  • Bergenfield, NJ: 6 inches
  • Hackensack, NJ: 7 inches
  • Lyndhurst, NJ: 6 inches
  • Paramus, NJ: 6 inches
  • Ramsey, NJ: 5 inches
  • Ridgefield, NJ: 7 inches
  • Ridgewood, NJ: 6 inches
  • Rutherford, NJ: 7 inches

Morris County​

  • Morristown, NJ: 5 inches
  • Dover, NJ: 4 inches
  • Madison, NJ: 6 inches
  • Florham Park, NJ: 6 inches

Sussex County​

  • Hopatcong, NJ: 4 inches
  • Newton, NJ: 3 inches
  • Franklin, NJ: 4 inches
  • Stanhope, NJ: 4 inches

Monmouth County​

  • Asbury Park, NJ: 12 inches
  • Long Branch, NJ: 12 inches
  • Tinton Falls, NJ: 11 inches
  • Eatontown, NJ: 12 inches

Ocean County​

  • Point Pleasant, NJ: 13 inches
  • Beachwood, NJ: 12 inches
  • Point Pleasant Beach, NJ: 13 inches
  • South Toms River, NJ: 12 inches

Camden County​

  • Camden, NJ: 6 inches
  • Lindenwold, NJ: 8 inches
  • Collingswood, NJ: 6 inches
  • Haddonfield, NJ: 7 inches

Burlington County​

  • Burlington, NJ: 7 inches
  • Palmyra, NJ: 6 inches
  • Medford Lakes, NJ: 9 inches
  • Bordentown, NJ: 8 inches

Cumberland County​

  • Vineland, NJ: 10 inches
  • Millville, NJ: 10 inches
  • Bridgeton, NJ: 8 inches
  • Shiloh, NJ: 8 inches
National Weather Service
 
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At of 5:48 p.m.from NWS. Let's see how this plays out. I guess Middlesex County has no predictions? 🤷‍♂️

See projected inch counts for your area below.

Bergen County​

  • Bergenfield, NJ: 6 inches
  • Hackensack, NJ: 7 inches
  • Lyndhurst, NJ: 6 inches
  • Paramus, NJ: 6 inches
  • Ramsey, NJ: 5 inches
  • Ridgefield, NJ: 7 inches
  • Ridgewood, NJ: 6 inches
  • Rutherford, NJ: 7 inches

Morris County​

  • Morristown, NJ: 5 inches
  • Dover, NJ: 4 inches
  • Madison, NJ: 6 inches
  • Florham Park, NJ: 6 inches

Sussex County​

  • Hopatcong, NJ: 4 inches
  • Newton, NJ: 3 inches
  • Franklin, NJ: 4 inches
  • Stanhope, NJ: 4 inches

Monmouth County​

  • Asbury Park, NJ: 12 inches
  • Long Branch, NJ: 12 inches
  • Tinton Falls, NJ: 11 inches
  • Eatontown, NJ: 12 inches

Ocean County​

  • Point Pleasant, NJ: 13 inches
  • Beachwood, NJ: 12 inches
  • Point Pleasant Beach, NJ: 13 inches
  • South Toms River, NJ: 12 inches

Camden County​

  • Camden, NJ: 6 inches
  • Lindenwold, NJ: 8 inches
  • Collingswood, NJ: 6 inches
  • Haddonfield, NJ: 7 inches

Burlington County​

  • Burlington, NJ: 7 inches
  • Palmyra, NJ: 6 inches
  • Medford Lakes, NJ: 9 inches
  • Bordentown, NJ: 8 inches

Cumberland County​

  • Vineland, NJ: 10 inches
  • Millville, NJ: 10 inches
  • Bridgeton, NJ: 8 inches
  • Shiloh, NJ: 8 inches
National Weather Service
Great …no snow in Essex Co!Awesome.
 
For Linden

Friday
A 30 percent chance of snow, mainly after 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 35. Wind chill values between 20 and 30. West wind around 5 mph becoming light and variable.

Friday Night
Snow likely, mainly after 4am. Cloudy, with a low around 21. Wind chill values between 10 and 15. North wind 7 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Saturday
Snow, mainly before 1pm. High near 22. Wind chill values between 5 and 10. Windy, with a north wind 23 to 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.
 
For Linden

Friday
A 30 percent chance of snow, mainly after 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 35. Wind chill values between 20 and 30. West wind around 5 mph becoming light and variable.

Friday Night
Snow likely, mainly after 4am. Cloudy, with a low around 21. Wind chill values between 10 and 15. North wind 7 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Saturday
Snow, mainly before 1pm. High near 22. Wind chill values between 5 and 10. Windy, with a north wind 23 to 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.
Comparing amounts from above northjersey.com article, which predicts 12-13" for my area:
Friday Night
Snow, mainly after 7pm. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 20. Blustery, with a north wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
Saturday

Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 24. Windy, with a north wind 25 to 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible.

9-15" possible vs 12-13" predicted.
 
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Comparing amounts from above northjersey.com article, which predicts 12-13" for my area:
Friday Night
Snow, mainly after 7pm. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 20. Blustery, with a north wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
Saturday

Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 24. Windy, with a north wind 25 to 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible.

9-15" possible vs 12-13" predicted.
What’s your area?
 
What time we talking about here?

Need to make a call on going to the Islanders game - Sat 2pm

I’m guessing going will be fine but getting back to NJ at 5-6pm Sat night?
Here's the latest forecast for Elmont:

Friday
A 30 percent chance of snow, mainly after 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 35. Wind chill values between 20 and 30. West wind around 6 mph becoming north in the afternoon.
Friday Night
Snow likely, mainly after 1am. Cloudy, with a low around 23. Wind chill values between 10 and 15. North wind 7 to 17 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.
Saturday
Snow, mainly before 4pm. High near 24. Wind chill values between zero and 10. Windy, with a north wind 26 to 34 mph, with gusts as high as 48 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible.
Saturday Night
A 30 percent chance of snow, mainly before 7pm. Mostly cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly clear, with a low around 12. Windy, with a northwest wind 21 to 30 mph, with gusts as high as 43 mph.
 
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